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Grouper rod for wreck drops

Old 05-24-2019, 05:04 AM
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Default Grouper rod for wreck drops

i know this question has been asked a million times on this board (I asked myself a few years back) however I need to buy a new grouper rod and was interested in Everyone’s latest input on latest and greatest.

I know I need something stronger than a Penn Carnage II because I had one of those snapped like a toothpick yesterday.

if money was not top concern, what would you buy to horse up big fish off wrecks in west coast Fl, in 100 ft plus water.?

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Old 05-24-2019, 05:42 AM
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Penn Mariner Standup fairly robust.
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:50 AM
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Old 05-24-2019, 06:05 AM
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Star DLX507

Don't discount it since it is only rated for up to 8oz. I have fished up 32ozs with it and it handles it fine.
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Old 05-24-2019, 06:13 AM
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A Terez is a solid choice..
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:36 AM
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What are you calling big?

If I was after Warsaws and such I would probably grab one of these as they are hot with the California long range guys.
They refer to it as a "rail rod". Lay foregrip on rail and winch in 200lb tuna.

https://www.amazon.com/Okuma-Custom-Lightweight-Fishing-PCH-C-741XXXXH/dp/B07LBN1Y6L/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=okuma+pch&qid=1558708229&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-8 https://www.amazon.com/Okuma-Custom-Lightweight-Fishing-PCH-C-741XXXXH/dp/B07LBN1Y6L/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=okuma+pch&qid=1558708229&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-8

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https://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-p...ional-rod.html
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:41 AM
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Standup or in the rodholder? Drifting or anchored? Private or headboat? The most effective is probably a 80lb or 130lb bent butt trolling rod, locked down drag, driving away from the wreck; alternatively a bandit works well.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:22 AM
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Penn Carnage II - In the right size for the species you are targeting and style of fishing you are doing. If it snapped, you didn't set your drag correctly. That's not the rods fault.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:26 AM
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Keep it simple and cheap, 8’ ugly stick or star rod. Responsible for more big dead rusty bellies and carbos than all the other rods combined.
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Old 05-24-2019, 01:07 PM
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I just happened to be fishing right here off Longboat Key on a wreck in 108 ft.
had the Carnage II rod on a Penn Squall 2 lever drag 16VS.
Bench tested the strike drag at 20 /lbs.
the fish Did pull a little drag before the rod snapped, so im thinking that the drag was not at fault!!!
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:53 AM
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Connley Tortuga Special for reasonably priced rod.

Calstar 700H or United Composites 70CPH for pricier
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:36 PM
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Bent butt Penn international 50 game rod. Penn vsw70 reel with 80lb braid. Got 5 of these fish yesterday from 600ft. Bent butt in a rod holder works for most people. You can see the rod in the back of this photo.
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Old 05-26-2019, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lazyboi1212 View Post
Penn Carnage II - In the right size for the species you are targeting and style of fishing you are doing. If it snapped, you didn't set your drag correctly. That's not the rods fault.
Or, shit happens.
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:10 PM
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There is no best rod. Everyone has different tastes and styles. You will need backbone though. I like Asian style jigging rods for horseing fish off the bottom. Or anywhere else. I prefer a faster action, but still parabolic. Just a defined shut-off point at the foregrip rather than down to the reel seat. Jigging Master Three Kings Special is what I use.
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Shimano trevala TVC66MH . Been a bunch of copper bellies up to 60# caught on this rod .
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