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Old 05-19-2019, 05:55 PM
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Looking for a reel to pair with a bent butt outfit for a planer rod. Will be slow trolling ballyhoo, not hst. I want a 2 speed reel, but don’t want to spend the coin on a new tiagra or international. What do you guys say about a Tyrnos 50? Avet 50?
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Graddy-fied View Post
Looking for a reel to pair with a bent butt outfit for a planer rod. Will be slow trolling ballyhoo, not hst. I want a 2 speed reel, but don’t want to spend the coin on a new tiagra or international. What do you guys say about a Tyrnos 50? Avet 50?
I have been pulling #12 Old Salty planer with an Avet 50 for years with no problems.
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Originally Posted by Ken T View Post
I have been pulling #12 Old Salty planer with an Avet 50 for years with no problems.
same here...probably 13 or so years on an Avet 50 with #12 planer. Only remember servicing it once, to.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken T View Post
I have been pulling #12 Old Salty planer with an Avet 50 for years with no problems.

Same setup works well for me also.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:34 AM
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Avet 50 here too....the others seem to have drag “creep”
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:16 AM
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We used a TLD 50 and a #8 planer for a couple seasons. No issues, but came across a deal on an 80VSW and upgraded. Also, I saw that Saltwater Tackle in Atlantic Beach is running a promo on a planer rod and spooling.
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Okuma Makaria 80W - 100 lbs drag and built like a tank.
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:40 AM
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Avet 50 (not the wide version) or a Makaira 50 (not the wide version).
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Avet TRX 50
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Thanks guys.
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Avet TRX 50 also.
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:53 AM
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I use a Makaira 50W to pull a #12. I've seen other 50's creep and I don't like the bulk of an 80. The Makaira goes to 85# so that won't be an issue.
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I use a Makaira 50W to pull a #12. I've seen other 50's creep and I don't like the bulk of an 80. The Makaira goes to 85# so that won't be an issue.
Some people set them to creep slightly when going up a wave. That way you work the entire water column. Just have to reset every so often.
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Makaira 50w spoiled prolly not even 1/2 with braid.
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Makaira 50w spoiled prolly not even 1/2 with braid.
If not spooling it full, why not get the narrow version for less money. Same guts.
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I used a TLD 50 for years with success but it would sometimes creep down sea as others have mentioned. Got a good deal on a Makaira 50W and that's what I'll be using from now on due to better drag capacity. May even pull a bigger planer too with it
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
If not spooling it full, why not get the narrow version for less money. Same guts.

Because with less line height on the spool, you effectively increase the drag due to it pulling across smaller radius (or lever arm).

We fish an 80W tiara about 1/3 full of braid and it can barely hold a 16 at max drag (still having freespool)

to the OP, finding a used 80W is my recommendation.

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Because with less line height on the spool, you effectively increase the drag due to it pulling across smaller radius (or lever arm).

We fish an 80W tiara about 1/3 full of braid and it can barely hold a 16 at max drag (still having freespool)

to the OP, finding a used 80W is my recommendation.
Since we don't particularly care about capacity on a planer reel with straight braid, the couple hundred yards difference even if filled to the same height on the spool on either a 50 or 50W is negligible no matter what. Narrower reels are easier to level the line on and less cumbersome in general.

A makaira 50 or 50W has twice as much drag as a tiagra 80W or 50W LRSA wherever on the spool you have your line loaded too. 80W has same drag rating as 50WLRSA in Tiagras. I understand that drag increases with reduced spool diameter, I just don't think there's enough of a difference between a normal 50 and 50W if using a new modern reel if you want the same capacity and have to fill it a little more. On a used older model, sure.

I don't particularly like 80Ws for anything, personally. Too big to use standup, and if you are fishing from the holder or a chair might as well use a 130.

But what the hell do I know, I'm just an engineer who feels compelled to go by published data.

MK-50IISEA 3.2:1 & 1:1 85-lbs max 60-lbs strike with freespool
MK-50WIISEA 3.2:1 & 1.0:1 85-lbs 60-lbs
MK-80WIISEA 3.1:1 & 1.2:1 100-lbs 70-lbs
TI50WLRSA 80/550 3.1:1 80/1575,100/1235,150/1180 44 lbs max
TI80WA 80/950 2.5:1 100/2445,150/2365,200/1920 44 lbs max

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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
Since we don't particularly care about capacity on a planer reel with straight braid, the couple hundred yards difference even if filled to the same height on the spool on either a 50 or 50W is negligible no matter what. Narrower reels are easier to level the line on and less cumbersome in general.

A makaira 50 or 50W has twice as much drag as a tiagra 80W or 50W LRSA wherever on the spool you have your line loaded too. 80W has same drag rating as 50WLRSA in Tiagras. I understand that drag increases with reduced spool diameter, I just don't think there's enough of a difference between a normal 50 and 50W if using a new modern reel if you want the same capacity and have to fill it a little more. On a used older model, sure.

I don't particularly like 80Ws for anything, personally. Too big to use standup, and if you are fishing from the holder or a chair might as well use a 130.

But what the hell do I know, I'm just an engineer who feels compelled to go by published data.

MK-50IISEA 3.2:1 & 1:1 85-lbs max 60-lbs strike with freespool
MK-50WIISEA 3.2:1 & 1.0:1 85-lbs 60-lbs
MK-80WIISEA 3.1:1 & 1.2:1 100-lbs 70-lbs
TI50WLRSA 80/550 3.1:1 80/1575,100/1235,150/1180 44 lbs max
TI80WA 80/950 2.5:1 100/2445,150/2365,200/1920 44 lbs max
You asked why, I gave you the correct answer as to why someone could logically choose a wide over a narrow for this specific application.

Its a planer rod, it sits in the corner all day and rarely if ever moves even with a fish on it. There is no reason weight should really play part in the decision as you aren't going to be fishing it stand up or even from a chair and with so much empty space, there is no reason to even think about level winding it. Go look on just about every sport fisher around and you will find them using a tiara 80W for their planer rod. But Im not an engineer (or not a PE at least) so what do I know.
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