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Old 05-11-2019, 03:37 PM
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Ok so normally I use a standard 2 hook bottom rig that I tie myself when bottom fishing for sea bass, triggers, beeliners etc. For grouper I use a carolina rig or a 3 way swivel grouper rig.

I was at a tackle shop and heard some guys talking about a different type of bottom rig besides the standard chicken rig and I can't remember what they called it. They were using it mostly for triggers and beeliners. Said it gave just a little different presentation but I can't remember what it was or how it was rigged. Any ideas? For fishing 80-130 fow.
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Aside from Deep Drop rigs, perhaps one on these? The Dropper (also a Hi-Low with 2 branches) uses no swivels and good for smaller/shy fish. Illustration is just one type configuration and sizes. FYI, I do my dropper with the lines twisted so they extend outward stiffer.








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It wasn't a Sabiki rig was it? I've heard..... the larger ones (30lb main, 20lb branch line) work extremely well when tipped with squid..... BUT..... they do not use circle hooks so I guess you fish at your own risk in the gulf... OR..... you fish for grunts and count beeliners and triggers as bi-catch .
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No wasn't a sabiki. Probably something similar to that snapper rig above although that's pretty much how I do the standard chicken rig.
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No wasn't a sabiki. Probably something similar to that snapper rig above although that's pretty much how I do the standard chicken rig.
Yep. I do the dropper loop also with 30lb fluoro but i'm only about 1ft-18" between loops. I use a 6oz weight and let it sit right on the bottom.

Maybe you'll remember the name of what you're talking about....
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Originally Posted by bigjohnnc View Post
Ok so normally I use a standard 2 hook bottom rig that I tie myself when bottom fishing for sea bass, triggers, beeliners etc. For grouper I use a carolina rig or a 3 way swivel grouper rig.

I was at a tackle shop and heard some guys talking about a different type of bottom rig besides the standard chicken rig and I can't remember what they called it. They were using it mostly for triggers and beeliners. Said it gave just a little different presentation but I can't remember what it was or how it was rigged. Any ideas? For fishing 80-130 fow.

Im assuming yer talking 80-130 depth and not reel...

Trigger and grouper as you say is t totally different...Carolina rig good for big grouper. Small small small treble hook good for triggers... apples and oranges...

But check the regs....they mighty funny these days on said fishes...

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Im assuming yer talking 80-130 depth and not reel...

Trigger and grouper as you say is t totally different...Carolina rig good for big grouper. Small small small treble hook good for triggers... apples and oranges...

But check the regs....they mighty funny these days on said fishes...

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Yep I should have been more clear. Looking for what kind of rig they were talking about for beeliners and triggers. I remembering them say they switched from chicken rigs to this other rig and caught them much better. I know about using smaller hooks/baits for triggers.
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Old 05-12-2019, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bigjohnnc View Post
Yep I should have been more clear. Looking for what kind of rig they were talking about for beeliners and triggers. I remembering them say they switched from chicken rigs to this other rig and caught them much better. I know about using smaller hooks/baits for triggers.

Yes. “Carolina” rigs or if that’s what u wanna call them is good for big grouper.

For Triggers, targeting triggers, I just use small trebles with a piece of cut bait. Preferably squid.


Like I said tho, check yer Regs.


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Back some 35 years ago when I fished on a commercial snapper boat, we would use something similar to the snapper rig pictured above. Only we would use 15 to 20 hooks spaced about 5" apart.
Sometimes at night we would anchor up and fish for B liners. We always used the same rigs we used for snapper.
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Old 05-12-2019, 05:45 PM
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Just a guess, maybe making the "chicken rig" but using the drop shot hooks that are popular on the freshwater scene, so hook isn't on a standout dropper and can rotate around leader without tangling? I have thought of trying this sometime.
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Wasn't called the Hi-Lo rig? The hooks are spaced out about 4 ft with dropper loops. There is another loop at the bottom so you can switch out your weight according to conditions. You can also swap out your hooks. Mike with Florida Sport Fishing has a great episode on this rig.
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Just use a standard dropper loop rig but tie a twisted dropper loop instead of the normal. Keeps the small hooks perpendicular to the main line and prevents tangles. YouTube is your friend. I tie them with 2-5 drops. No tangles.
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C&H used to make a killer rig called the Snapper Flasher.I had a box of them for those quick drops on the way home, it was basically big 3 hook sabiki and I crushed it with them, I’d run down from the bridge, tip the 3 dressed hooks with squid and usually pull up 3 trigs while my crew had nothing. We loved them things but since CH is gone so are the snapper flashers. Black magic makes on called the snapper snatcher and there is a guy in AUS making thembut the shipping is stupid.

Id pay good money for some more of them..
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Yes. “Carolina” rigs or if that’s what u wanna call them is good for big grouper.

For Triggers, targeting triggers, I just use small trebles with a piece of cut bait. Preferably squid.


Like I said tho, check yer Regs.


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Why would you use a treble hook for triggers? First of all it’s illegal. Second any fish that inhaled a small treble is going to have 100% mortality. Third small circle hooks are going to be a hell of a lot stronger, its just as easy to catch triggers, and will land more fish.

Last time at the edge we used small circle hooks and small chunks of squid caught triggers, mingo and porgies and zero red snapper.
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#2 Owner Mutu XX strong is the ticket for triggers. Won't bend or break when you pry them out of their hard mouths. Tip them with a thumbnail sized piece of sharkbelly and they can't steal the bait without getting the hook. Also, have caught bunches of beeliners, bsb and other bottom critters with that hook. Even some large AJ's.
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May try something like this just to see how it works. Just looking for a little different presentation to try when marking fish and they are a little finicky.
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Why would you use a treble hook for triggers? First of all it’s illegal. Second any fish that inhaled a small treble is going to have 100% mortality. Third small circle hooks are going to be a hell of a lot stronger, its just as easy to catch triggers, and will land more fish.

Last time at the edge we used small circle hooks and small chunks of squid caught triggers, mingo and porgies and zero red snapper.
You’re correct. Last time I “targeted” trigger was many years ago before the law changed and now pretty much catch them as bycatch on smaller circle hooks. The small trebles for trigger dropping half way down the column was very effective as I said.

But no bueno now. Smaller circle hooks OP. If on standing structure drop close as can to it about halfway down the water column with small piece cut bait.

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