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Old 05-12-2019, 01:04 PM
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Interesting......fished a tourney out of Carolina this passed weekend and saw that exact thing happen.....flybridge on the troll with no one on the
bridge, a cc screaming at the guy on the radio and they missed him by maybe 150 feet and clipped some of his lines. Crazy.

on topic.....I rode in a sweet 60’ carolina custom back in November in a 2-4 beam chop and only one guy was in the salon, and he was velcroed to the sofa great boat on the troll, and the ride was soft but it danced all over and the best place was the mezzanine.
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Old 05-12-2019, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
One thing I noticed when fishing on friends sporties is that the bridge can be a very lonely place during transit. Especially on the way home the crew tends to crash, leaving the cappie up on the bridge alone unless you take the effort to stay up there with them. Even something as simple as a bottle of water or a sandwich can be very welcome if you are up there alone with no intercom.. I make it a point to spend time up there or at least check in to see if they want anything, but others just z out and wake up when the boat slows down at the marina.
A good friend just went through this,The bridge boat was as mentioned above, and the express was just too loud for him under way.I think he may now eying the Seavee 43 express w/outboards, just not thrilled with how far set back the helm is.Problem here is the wait is 3 years on new,with almost no late model used ones on the market.I know,I know firstt world problems of the highest degree
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Old 05-12-2019, 01:30 PM
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I canít see how anyone would buy a flybridge without hiring a captain. I like gaffing fish, running baits, and catching fish as much as I do driving the boat. It would also make fishing with a inexpericed crew nearly impossible. Nothing like seeing somebody catch their first fish on the troll offshore. If I was going to buy a large boat with a cabin I would 100% go with a express. Get a tower with a upper station and you can go up and watch baits or spot fish and youíll have the best of both worlds.
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Old 05-12-2019, 05:14 PM
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I have had both express boats and flybridge boats. When Iím trolling on the express Iím alone anyway as I am in the tower.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:14 AM
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The Old Blackfin Flybridge, low fly bridge format, it is just 3 steps down from there to the cockpit. Anglers can stay up in the shade and breeze chat with the captain, yet be just a few steps from the action in the cockpit.

Fish it many times and it's very fast to get to the rod when we see a fish on the teasers, on a regular flybridge the bridge is a lonely place during fishing.
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Old 05-13-2019, 02:35 AM
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A buddy of mine just bought a 38 Rampage express and I’m the captain. It’s real nice to have someone to talk to while steaming out in the morning. While trolling, I’m in the tower watching everything and looking for fish. That gets very lonely. If you have a nice crew, they’ll grab you a water and some snacks periodically. Last trip I wanted to reel one in and climbing down that tower wasn’t so bad. With the express, you can set auto pilot in 10 degree turn and fish if you’re short handed. I’m pretty stoked on the express because I like to fish but I still find myself climbing up and down from the tuna tower.
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WavRidr359 View Post
I have had both express boats and flybridge boats. When Iím trolling on the express Iím alone anyway as I am in the tower.
This^^^^^^^

I am in my tower the entire time baits are in the water and on the way out lookin for fish.
About the only time I'm at the lower helm is if were headed home or were bottom fishing.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:05 AM
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Maybe I'm lucky but most people on my boat gravitate to the helm with me. I have never gone out without someone up top with me, but the morning is peaceful, a mug of coffee and the anticipation of the day combined with the sun rising is my perfect place. During the day someone will come up and watch baits with me and we chill. I get the enjoyment of putting people on fish, I love to catch fish but right now I take more satisfaction on the boat catching fish, not me catching fish. If the crew isn't as experienced I have my wife drive or I can put a watch up top while on AP. Funny thing is now with bigger fish she would rather drive and loves being the captain.

I also agree with the previous post stating it depends on your run, in Virginia my run is 65 miles and 40 while in NC. I have had many friends have an awesome time on the my previous boat, a 30' Contender, but by the time they got back in were wiped out. Now everyone is eager to help clean after the ride in, have a much bigger list of people who want to fish etc. I love my convertible and I think its worth mentioning the boat at one time had a salon station that was removed. It all comes down to preference, I can absolutely see the appeal of an express, esp when tuna fishing in the cold winter months, but I love marlin fishing and the convertible was the right choice for me.


Meghan driving during the end game on a big eye.



The fish with Meghan and the pup.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:34 AM
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Lucky man!

What boat is that. I have fished a old TollyCraft conv. That had a lower helm that was removed and the windows glassed over. I have a large bench seat in the Tower of the Rampage and there is always someone wnating to be up there with me as well. I't's a Marlin Tower and not that high and is cooler, quieter and not that much rougher up there unless it's real rough.

The visibility advantage of not having to look through glass is night and day.
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:13 AM
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After graduating form outboard CCs and WAs, my first inboard diesel boat was a 29 Phoenix FB. It took some while to get used too but then I loved it... Kept it for 5-6 years and then moved into a 28 Henriques express. After just a few trips I couldn't believe how much I missed a FB style boat…...Moved back to my current BF 29 FB...… Not all FB boats are created equal. The 29-33 BF and 31 Bert, for example, are more like split level boats. The FB is only a few steps away. I can take a tape measure and prove that the captain on my boat is closer to the action than the captain on an express boat. I can easily hop right down, or up, in a second. I'm not far from the action. The captain regular nets or gaffs the fish. I run 3-4 rods off the bridge rod holders and those are usually the most productive! You can dial in your spread much much better. You an see a single weed on a line, you can see bait, fish, debris, pretty much everything better. Its quieter up there as well, I can carry on a conversation without yelling. All while still behind the glass if you want to, unlike a tower. My cockpit isn't any smaller than a typical express boat, its actually bigger. My cabin and amenities in it are over 100% bigger! The interior of a small express is like being in a basement. The FB has full size windows that bring in lots of light and makes it look even roomier. I regular take my boat out alone, or just with my shepherd lol. I have zero problems tying up. I get fuel alone, fish alone even troll alone. An autopilot helps when you double up on the troll! Personally I see zero advantage to the express style boat in the 30 foot range. I can tell you this for sure, unless they are catching a nap, everyone wants to come up on the bridge. I'm never alone...... I can point out many disadvantages that I personally encountered. Now on 40-50 foot boats I can see different challenges. Once you get that big, pretty much everything changes.
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 20biminitwist View Post
Lucky man!

What boat is that. I have fished a old TollyCraft conv. That had a lower helm that was removed and the windows glassed over. I have a large bench seat in the Tower of the Rampage and there is always someone wnating to be up there with me as well. I't's a Marlin Tower and not that high and is cooler, quieter and not that much rougher up there unless it's real rough.

The visibility advantage of not having to look through glass is night and day.
Its Jarrett Bay Hull number 4, a 36' convertible. I don't know which owner pulled out the lower station, I think it would have been cool but prob had to do with adding space. The windows will eventually be removed and glassed in, less maint and less likely taking a wave through at Oregon Inlet.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:07 AM
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Aren't we talking hard top expresses/ Day Boats.


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Old 05-13-2019, 07:37 AM
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I love the lines and the look of both a Pursuit or Jupiter. But it would be nice to be able to get up higher to watch the spread, see the rips, look for stuff. I like the idea of having a fishing/cruising/island hopping/socializing boat.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:04 AM
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could easily put a lower helm in a 35 bertram. probably half of them have it. most guys dont use it though. flybridge with a cockpit station is a great way to go.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:17 AM
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Every boat is a compromise. Here's mine - a 2018 Stamas 390 Aegean that I had built for me last year. I keep the boat in Key Biscayne from November to end of May and then run it up the coast to New York for the summer. This year the boat will be in Montauk. The boat has good speed, excellent range, decent fuel economy, and fishes very well. It's an excellent boat for the NE canyons, and very comfortable for my wife and I to stay on when we go down to Key Biscayne for several days every two weeks or so over the winter. It's terrific for those runs over to Bimini.



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Old 05-13-2019, 11:01 AM
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Every boat is a compromise. Here's mine - a 2018 Stamas 390 Aegean that I had built for me last year. I keep the boat in Key Biscayne from November to end of May and then run it up the coast to New York for the summer. This year the boat will be in Montauk. The boat has good speed, excellent range, decent fuel economy, and fishes very well. It's an excellent boat for the NE canyons, and very comfortable for my wife and I to stay on when we go down to Key Biscayne for several days every two weeks or so over the winter. It's terrific for those runs over to Bimini.



Super nice.Jilly did you compare to the Seavee or Pursuit before deciding on the Stamas,and if so what was the deciding factor? The list seem really short for these out outboard express boats. Thanks,Lu
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:12 AM
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What kinda boat is in the first picture above, thats a good looking boat
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:59 AM
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If someone wants an Express mine is up for sale

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Old 05-13-2019, 01:18 PM
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Nautibouys II WHAT ENGINES ARE IN THAT BEAUTY ???
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Old 05-13-2019, 01:36 PM
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