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Old 04-16-2019, 02:46 PM
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Me and my friend from University are conducting market research in the charter boat industry for a project to better understand the biggest problems and needs in the industry.

Those familiar and experienced in the charter boat industry, what would you say are the biggest struggles being a captain?

Would getting more clients solve some of the problems?

Any feedback would be amazing, thanks!

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Old 04-16-2019, 02:48 PM
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I could care less about the weather.

The biggest problem today is federal fishing regulations that are out of touch with reality and based on junk science.
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Illegal charter boats.
Small boats that are owned by weekend warriors
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
I could care less about the weather.

The biggest problem today is federal fishing regulations that are out of touch with reality and based on junk science.
I agree, these regulations hurt small businesses. Charter boat captains should not have to deal with any creel regulations. As true Hero’s they should be allowed to self regulate. ( what little kid wouldn’t love to grow up to be a charter boat captain?). They are helping thousands experience the dream of a life time, in a safe, healthy manner. Their professionalism on the job should reflect our trust as professional stewards of our resources. Have you thanked a charter boat captain for their service today?
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Definitely regulations first and then weather. We have been booking trips since January but we haven't even found out if Halibut season will start May first like normal. They say they are behind because of the government shutdown. I guess the number of new boats in the fleet is starting to become a problem. The number of Charters in our Marina has gone from two when I started 14 years ago to ten now.
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Your health, after beating the shit out of yourself for 30 plus years.

You can sell your boats, business and gear. You can't sell yourself or reputation/personality.

I have seen too many fail trying to buy in.
The paperwork and regulations are another huge stumbling block. They get worse and more costly every year.
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I say fish. when I first started fishing out of wachapreague a limit of yellowfins chunking at lumpy was a normal thing often times back to the dock by noon. & there were at least a dozen charter boats & plenty of customers. now a limit of yellowfins is a rare thing & there's 1 charter boat in wachapreague yes there are other factors. but I guarantee you if the fishing turned on like back in the day there would be folks gladly paying to bring home coolers full of tuna loins
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Originally Posted by Timex View Post
I say fish. when I first started fishing out of wachapreague a limit of yellowfins chunking at lumpy was a normal thing often times back to the dock by noon. & there were at least a dozen charter boats & plenty of customers. now a limit of yellowfins is a rare thing & there's 1 charter boat in wachapreague yes there are other factors. but I guarantee you if the fishing turned on like back in the day there would be folks gladly paying to bring home coolers full of tuna loins
Seems like you did that to yourself. Maybe not keeping a limit every single time would not of killed the fishery.
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Finding a mate who won’t show up (or call in) high on drugs. This no joke, its a real problem for these outfits, I have a few good friends who run major operations in So Fla, and finding & retaining labor is a real issue for them. Nothing worse for them than sending out a good trip with a guy you know is messed up or hasnt slept.
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Always loved hearing how captains. Use to"limit "out, then birch and moan about regulations and the lack of fish
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
Seems like you did that to yourself. Maybe not keeping a limit every single time would not of killed the fishery.
Ouch, and a smart ass remark.

Try and tell any charter customer they can not keep the legal limit!

Blame the regulators. They have allowed over fishing since dirt was invented.

I have had to adjust to the seasons, limits and what the F ever they have come up with. I encourage to only take within the meager limits of today what you will actually eat, limit or not.

Fishing will not ever be what it was back in the day. It is getting worse every year from too many people taking and polluting in masses. I seriously doubt the charter boat industry has more impact on fish stocks than the poaching general public has. There are millions of them.

Back to the OP about market research.

Having to pay someone to drive social media to get business instead of hard work and word of mouth. Yea, the guy behind a key board that has never been on a boat, and doesn't know the difference between a tuna and a large mouth bass.

The marketing guy gets rich, the captain gets his ears cut off from skin cancer/ bad back and so on from all the business his marketing guy got him.

Captain goes dead and the marketing guy with no skin in the game moves on to the next piece of meat.
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
Seems like you did that to yourself. Maybe not keeping a limit every single time would not of killed the fishery.
its been 3 yft per person for a very long time & the lack of yft on the inshore lumps is not due to no more tuna (overfishing) it's due to no more sand eel colonies. (no food source no tuna) I'm not a marine biologist this is jmo. & this really isn't answering the op's question
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Originally Posted by 20biminitwist View Post
Ouch, and a smart ass remark.

Try and tell any charter customer they can not keep the legal limit!

Blame the regulators. They have allowed over fishing since dirt was invented.

I have had to adjust to the seasons, limits and what the F ever they have come up with. I encourage to only take within the meager limits of today what you will actually eat, limit or not.

Fishing will not ever be what it was back in the day. It is getting worse every year from too many people taking and polluting in masses. I seriously doubt the charter boat industry has more impact on fish stocks than the poaching general public has. There are millions of them.

Back to the OP about market research.

Having to pay someone to drive social media to get business instead of hard work and word of mouth. Yea, the guy behind a key board that has never been on a boat, and doesn't know the difference between a tuna and a large mouth bass.

The marketing guy gets rich, the captain gets his ears cut off from skin cancer/ bad back and so on from all the business his marketing guy got him.

Captain goes dead and the marketing guy with no skin in the game moves on to the next piece of meat.
What do you think the op is doing?
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Originally Posted by 20biminitwist View Post
Ouch, and a smart ass remark.

Try and tell any charter customer they can not keep the legal limit!

Blame the regulators. They have allowed over fishing since dirt was invented.

I have had to adjust to the seasons, limits and what the F ever they have come up with. I encourage to only take within the meager limits of today what you will actually eat, limit or not.

Fishing will not ever be what it was back in the day. It is getting worse every year from too many people taking and polluting in masses. I seriously doubt the charter boat industry has more impact on fish stocks than the poaching general public has. There are millions of them.

Back to the OP about market research.

Having to pay someone to drive social media to get business instead of hard work and word of mouth. Yea, the guy behind a key board that has never been on a boat, and doesn't know the difference between a tuna and a large mouth bass.

The marketing guy gets rich, the captain gets his ears cut off from skin cancer/ bad back and so on from all the business his marketing guy got him.

Captain goes dead and the marketing guy with no skin in the game moves on to the next piece of meat.
Jesus...other than all of that, it's a great job huh? Time for a career change?
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I agree, these regulations hurt small businesses. Charter boat captains should not have to deal with any creel regulations. As true Hero’s they should be allowed to self regulate. ( what little kid wouldn’t love to grow up to be a charter boat captain?). They are helping thousands experience the dream of a life time, in a safe, healthy manner. Their professionalism on the job should reflect our trust as professional stewards of our resources. Have you thanked a charter boat captain for their service today?
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