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Old 04-20-2019, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Coral Head View Post
All I can say is if your a charter captain you better know your fish because the LEO will hold you to a higher standard then a rec guy.
my personal fav is when you are boarded and the LEO can't id the fish, cracks me up every time

it's even better when they want to argue with you over it haha
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Old 04-20-2019, 11:37 AM
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I've been fishing since the days of little, if any regulations.

IMO the two biggest reasons for fewer fish are increased pollution due to a larger population and far more waterfront homes, and the impact of climate changes with increases water temps by a degree or two.

Overfishing is probably third on the list, but a much smaller impact than either of the first two reasons.
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Old 04-20-2019, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
my personal fav is when you are boarded and the LEO can't id the fish, cracks me up every time

it's even better when they want to argue with you over it haha
Yup the coasties are rarely good at fish ID from my experience, usually check the box last and sort of take a look and say "looks like you had some luck, have a great day". Now the FWC down here in the keys are a different story must are locals and know fish inside and out, the pucker factor goes up when they head for the box.

There is only one species that I have trouble with and that's Amber Jack, you put a 20" fish on the deck and it's hard to tell (at least for me) if it's a lesser or greater. So I don't take chances it's going back, probably has worms throughout anyway.
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Yes, I've learned that the lateral line does take a sharper downward turn on the Juvenile King than the Spanish. Also, and even more distinguishing , is that the dorsal fin on a Spanish is darker in color than that of the juvenile King, which is almost clear.
Juvenile Kings often have light yellow spots almost identical to those on a Spanish.
Juvenile Kings swim in the same waters as Spanish, eat the same bait. Google " Juvenile Kings', and you'll see a url that describes the difference between the 2 species and clearly supports the ease of confusion.
No mercy was shown, even after I commented that the $300. fine would put a dent in my social security check that month. Oh well, life is good, I now know at 75 years old, the difference between the 2 species. Fish on!!
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Robalomann1 View Post
Always loved hearing how captains. Use to"limit "out, then birch and moan about regulations and the lack of fish
As if a "limit" catch and a photo of a bunch of dead bleeding fish is any sort of advertisement as to how successful of a captain they are. I fucking hate the term"limit" just because it is legal does not make it right.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by iFishMD View Post
Biggest struggle for me is the accounting aspect. I hate doing it! With that said, i have a feeling that fisheries management is going to prove to be the biggest thorn in the side of the Chesapeake Bay. Unfortunately the ASMFC had one of the great recovery stories in striped bass in the late 1990's only to mismanage until the species is over fished again. We are really dependent upon this one species because the public will not pay good $ to go cat fishing.
So the hundreds and hundreds of major poaching cases by gill netters in Chesapeake bay has nothing to do with it? Its all the fault of fishery managers?
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenner21 View Post



What’s wrong with those small boat weekend warriors ? Surely you don’t mean hard working tax paying Americans who choose fishing as their weekend recreation of choice. Those same weekend warriors spending hundreds of millions of dollars in boat purchases, fuel, hotels , marinas, bait shops, tackle shops etc etc etc.
I am talking about the guys who work a full time job and come down on the weekend and run charters on the side basically for the cost of fuel
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Reel life charter View Post

I am talking about the guys who work a full time job and come down on the weekend and run charters on the side basically for the cost of fuel
I dont see the problem with that either. Gas isn't cheap. Running the occasional charter could be the difference between being able to afford boating with your family or not. I see threads on THT about repowers that cost more than my house. Not everyone is made of money.
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Originally Posted by Duntonsdragons View Post
I dont see the problem with that either. Gas isn't cheap. Running the occasional charter could be the difference between being able to afford boating with your family or not. I see threads on THT about repowers that cost more than my house. Not everyone is made of money.
As long as their affairs are in order let them have at it.

Too many unlicensed uninsured contractors around in all kinds of business's that compete and undercut legitimate business...

If they are doing it right they ain't playing charter captain. It cost a substantial amount of money to be in the game the right way.

The others are rip off and scam artists and there are plenty of them.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:00 PM
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so ya get a 6 pack capt liscens tax I'd # buisness liscens buisness checking account. & every penny you spend on the boat truck clothes costas yetys sperrys rods reels line lures heck probably even beer becomes a tax right off for the buisness. it's not worth it to me but it explains a lot of the a few weekend charters a year operations
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:22 PM
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I also agree with seajay on pollution iv been fishing out of VA wachapreague & Chincoteague for over 20 years & yes we get spring early summer warm core eddy canyon fish but mid & late summer when the chess bay water blends in our inshore bite isn't even a fraction of what it once was. nc has a fairly consistent fishery & newengland as well but the Chesapeake bay influenced portion of the ocean is mostly void of inshore palegics during the summer jmo of course I could be wrong
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Originally Posted by TUNEE View Post
what a dope you are
Nice grammar.
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Old 04-28-2019, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
Nice grammar.
You should be permanently banned for consistently being an asshole. Do you ever contribute or just harass? You remind me of a 10 year old. Quite pathetic!
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I’m in year 3 as a owner operator captain. More clients and business would solve the majority of problems. The biggest struggles are rounding up enough business to stay busy followed by never ending break down and maintenance costs. Fishing has little to do with it honestly. There’s always fish around if you have the experience.
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Originally Posted by burningdaylight View Post
This is exactly how someone who attends University (aka "Uni") speaks when English is their second or third language and they are students somewhere other than the U.S. This being their first post is somewhat eyebrow raising but I'd at least hear them out.

...and ONLY post. Troll....
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Originally Posted by FishLife View Post
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Meh. So I was wrong. Take it out of my raise.
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Old 05-02-2019, 03:36 PM
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All the permits and paperwork in my opinion are overkill. All we really want to do is take people fishing and give them a memory of a lifetime. Before we can even leave the dock we have to pay multiple different agencies for pieces of paper that say we’re legal. When I received my federal charter permits from NMF/NOAA they were stapled right in the middle of all 6 permits, right through some of the info, so I pay for permits with holes in the center of them, that I have to have to take people fishing! I’ll jump through hoops to live this lifestyle but these government workers could atleast take the time not to damage these necessary permits!!
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenner21 View Post



What’s wrong with those small boat weekend warriors ? Surely you don’t mean hard working tax paying Americans who choose fishing as their weekend recreation of choice. Those same weekend warriors spending hundreds of millions of dollars in boat purchases, fuel, hotels , marinas, bait shops, tackle shops etc etc etc.
He is referring to the weekend warriors who are doctors or whatever that want to call themselves charter boats and come to the beach from afar, running charters at cutthroat prices and have no clue what is going on. its really bad up there during commercial bluefin season when every little rig out there is now all of the sudden a commercial boat eating at the quota when that couple of G's doesn't make a difference in their lives but it sure helps with the finances of true commercial/ charter guys
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Originally Posted by Capt. Skipper Gentry View Post
He is referring to the weekend warriors who are doctors or whatever that want to call themselves charter boats and come to the beach from afar, running charters at cutthroat prices and have no clue what is going on. its really bad up there during commercial bluefin season when every little rig out there is now all of the sudden a commercial boat eating at the quota when that couple of G's doesn't make a difference in their lives but it sure helps with the finances of true commercial/ charter guys
up “here”... eastern ma, cape cod for example ? i have personally never heard of one example of this. maybe some guys trying to figure out how to get into the charter business - but that’s about trying to get paying customers - not gbft. maybe some “full time” / “pros” that have a charter /headboat/ sale endorcenent and will get a couple nice fish in season. there are an awful lot of “little rigs” out there when the bite is on, but most don’t have a clue and spend most of their time driving in circles. if they even hook up it rarely lasts very long. can’t say i ever heard of one making a sale.
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