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Old 04-16-2019, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Copout@castaways View Post
The first 2 years.
the honeymoon period?

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Old 04-16-2019, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
Seems like you did that to yourself. Maybe not keeping a limit every single time would not of killed the fishery.
what a dope you are
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ChasingSilverA2B View Post
Me and my friend from University are conducting market research in the charter boat industry for a project to better understand the biggest problems and needs in the industry.

Those familiar and experienced in the charter boat industry, what would you say are the biggest struggles being a captain?

Would getting more clients solve some of the problems?

Any feedback would be amazing, thanks!
Unless "Me and my friend from University" are students at Whatsamatter U, I'd say we are being trolled.
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
Jesus...other than all of that, it's a great job huh? Time for a career change?
Not really, just the reality of what I have seen over the last 25 years. You better love it! Suppose I must cause I'm out the door in 5 minutes to see how many times I gotta throw the cast net this morning to get enough bait to get my day in.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:56 AM
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Biggest struggle for me is the accounting aspect. I hate doing it! With that said, i have a feeling that fisheries management is going to prove to be the biggest thorn in the side of the Chesapeake Bay. Unfortunately the ASMFC had one of the great recovery stories in striped bass in the late 1990's only to mismanage until the species is over fished again. We are really dependent upon this one species because the public will not pay good $ to go cat fishing.
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LKD View Post
Unless "Me and my friend from University" are students at Whatsamatter U, I'd say we are being trolled.
This is exactly how someone who attends University (aka "Uni") speaks when English is their second or third language and they are students somewhere other than the U.S. This being their first post is somewhat eyebrow raising but I'd at least hear them out.
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Old 04-19-2019, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Reel life charter View Post
Illegal charter boats.
Small boats that are owned by weekend warriors

Whatís wrong with those small boat weekend warriors ? Surely you donít mean hard working tax paying Americans who choose fishing as their weekend recreation of choice. Those same weekend warriors spending hundreds of millions of dollars in boat purchases, fuel, hotels , marinas, bait shops, tackle shops etc etc etc.
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Old 04-19-2019, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 20biminitwist View Post

Having to pay someone to drive social media to get business instead of hard work and word of mouth. Yea, the guy behind a key board that has never been on a boat, and doesn't know the difference between a tuna and a large mouth bass.

The marketing guy gets rich, the captain gets his ears cut off from skin cancer/ bad back and so on from all the business his marketing guy got him.

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Old 04-19-2019, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenner21 View Post



Whatís wrong with those small boat weekend warriors ? Surely you donít mean hard working tax paying Americans who choose fishing as their weekend recreation of choice. Those same weekend warriors spending hundreds of millions of dollars in boat purchases, fuel, hotels , marinas, bait shops, tackle shops etc etc etc.
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I hope that he is complaining about fly-by-night, barely legal, often non-legal, part-time charter boats and not about recreational fishernen.
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Old 04-19-2019, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenner21 View Post



Whatís wrong with those small boat weekend warriors ? Surely you donít mean hard working tax paying Americans who choose fishing as their weekend recreation of choice. Those same weekend warriors spending hundreds of millions of dollars in boat purchases, fuel, hotels , marinas, bait shops, tackle shops etc etc etc.

He wasnít referring to recreational guys. He was referring to part time folks who do it on the weekend to offset the cost of owning a boat and can undercut the going rate of the full time pros as itís not their main source of income.
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Old 04-19-2019, 03:26 AM
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As a retired charter captain ( now fish recreationally), I can only reflect back to the times between the mid 80's and 2010 . Early on, it was mostly weather that caused me to lose trips. There were plenty of fish and very few fish regulations.
I'd say beginning in 2000, fishing reg's became a real pain in the butt. So, weather and reg's together, headed up the list of obstacles. to charter fishing. Today, I only fish recreationally, and since being retired , fishing mostly with my retired friends, I can pick my days thereby limiting the aggravation caused by weather. However, in my opinion, the govt' reg's has really taken the fun out of bottom fishing.
Size limits, possession limits, varying closed seasons based on species, federal waters versus state water reg's, , add to that, the ridiculously high cost of fines for in many cases, an innocent mistake, together has created an environment of fishing in a "police state".
As I said, the govt. has taken the fun out of bottom fishing in general.
Pardon me for steering off the original subject of the thread. Capt. Billy/Right Stuff
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Oh well my bad then it was worded like he taking a shot at weekend fishing recs my apologies.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ChasingSilverA2B View Post
Me and my friend from University are conducting market research in the charter boat industry for a project to better understand the biggest problems and needs in the industry.

Those familiar and experienced in the charter boat industry, what would you say are the biggest struggles being a captain?

Would getting more clients solve some of the problems?

Any feedback would be amazing, thanks!
This is not on point, but, I'm sorry, if you can't use proper grammar, you shouldn't be in the "University"
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:59 AM
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Most of the bigger charter boats are owned by corporations who charter more for a tax write off than for the money. I owned a 44 sport fisher and chartered out of Sailfish Marina for about 5 years. Don't think we ever made a dime in actual profits but it sure was fun. Captain survived on a salary plus a percentage of the charter money. After we took the boat out of charter he moved on as a corporate personal captain.
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Old 04-19-2019, 01:51 PM
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Much respect to the guys that make a living at it. I deal with the weather every day in my construction business, but we work year around and we can always work late or weekends to make up lost time. When you have a short season, and you get blown out for days on end....I can't imagine how frustrating that is.
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:20 AM
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In post #31 above, I referenced "high cost of fines for sometimes an innocent mistake.". Here's something to think about ! in Sept. 2016, I was fishing with a couple of my regular buddies. Guys who have fished with me numerous times and are very conscious about rules and regs.
Well, while bottom fishing, we caught what we thought was a good sized Spanish Mackerel and put him in the cooler with some other fish. Heading in, we got pulled over for a "courtesy ' safety inspection . While on board the officers inspected our cooler . After measuring our Spanish at 21 inches , (if I remember correctly), I was handed a violation for being in possession of an undersized King Mackerel . I was shocked when told that the fish was not a Spanish, but a juvenile King .
That was a first for me. Can anyone here readily distinguish between a Spanish and a Juvenile King ? This was truly an innocent mistake on our part, a mistake that cost me $300. Fact !! Now the irony ; in Fl , the fine for intentionally running a red light is $158. While running a red light, people's live are put in danger and yet the criminal is fined $142. less than if he were to keep 1 undersized fish. Hopefully, this puts into perspective , that fact that our fishing regs. and penalties need to be seriously looked at and perhaps revised.
Good fishing to everyone, and please know that I have the utmost respect for men and women in uniform , both on and off the water. Capt. Bi;;y/Right Stuff
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dolphin44 View Post
In post #31 above, I referenced "high cost of fines for sometimes an innocent mistake.". Here's something to think about ! in Sept. 2016, I was fishing with a couple of my regular buddies. Guys who have fished with me numerous times and are very conscious about rules and regs.
Well, while bottom fishing, we caught what we thought was a good sized Spanish Mackerel and put him in the cooler with some other fish. Heading in, we got pulled over for a "courtesy ' safety inspection . While on board the officers inspected our cooler . After measuring our Spanish at 21 inches , (if I remember correctly), I was handed a violation for being in possession of an undersized King Mackerel . I was shocked when told that the fish was not a Spanish, but a juvenile King .
That was a first for me. Can anyone here readily distinguish between a Spanish and a Juvenile King ? This was truly an innocent mistake on our part, a mistake that cost me $300. Fact !! Now the irony ; in Fl , the fine for intentionally running a red light is $158. While running a red light, people's live are put in danger and yet the criminal is fined $142. less than if he were to keep 1 undersized fish. Hopefully, this puts into perspective , that fact that our fishing regs. and penalties need to be seriously looked at and perhaps revised.
Good fishing to everyone, and please know that I have the utmost respect for men and women in uniform , both on and off the water. Capt. Bi;;y/Right Stuff
Out of curiosity, how did the officer definitively determine it was a juevenile King?
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:10 AM
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Out of curiosity, how did the officer definitively determine it was a juevenile King?
by looking at the lateral line
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Dolphin44, that's the problem with some of these FWC LEOs -- he did not have to issue you a citation -- which happens to be a criminal misdemeanor -- for your honest mistake. He has the discretion within the scope of his duties to take your honest mistake into account from the circumstances at hand. He intentionally chose to be a dick to you. An experienced LEO, using his discretion, should be able to tell if you made an honest mistake or are trying to get away with breaking the law and make his enforcement decision based on that. Too many of these guys are "gotcha" guys looking to find technical violations to nail fishermen. This bad attitude breeds mistrust and contempt against the majority of LEOs who do outstanding work and protect us and our fisheries.
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Old 04-20-2019, 10:24 AM
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All I can say is if your a charter captain you better know your fish because the LEO will hold you to a higher standard then a rec guy.
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