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Old 04-12-2019, 08:58 PM
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Default Budget swordfish electric reel

Most of the threads mention "this reel has caught a sword" but none either validate or even for sure say it can be used for the weekend deep drop guy.

Bottom line, hand cranking an 80w fron the bottom is not going to cut it for the limited time I get to fish, but the double edge is I dont fish enough to drop 5k on what I am looki g for.

my question is, is there an "electric reel starter pack" somewhere between a full blown deep drop swordfish reel and something that might catch one with some luck?

something in between an LP and a tanacom?

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Old 04-12-2019, 09:08 PM
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Save for an LP or Hooker.
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Murphy rides on boats and applies his law at sea. The fish that the cheaper gear will cost you will be the fish you really, really wanted. As to luck coming into it, as the old saying goes , " the better I prepare, the luckier I get "
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Daiwa Seaborg 1200MJ would be my choice. (I own a Beasmaster 9000)
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Old 04-13-2019, 04:30 AM
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You can find lightly used Krystal reels for around $1k. The 651's will easily bring in Mr. Swordie.
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Its old ugly and heavy but this is the route I went, same situation as you

https://www.ebay.com/itm/lindgren-pi...wAAOSw9nJck7oK

Dont forget you have to spend more than this on a rod, that part is important.
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First, you bring up a great question and very relevant, despite any upcoming millennial barrage that may ensue.

James at Frigate has a new BANAX reel coming out that I believe will be that game changer. It will not break the bank, is an upgrade from the current model and is designed to handle Swords. I believe his timing is within the month. Also, I think he is out of the country until the 18th but you might consider contacting him for his return.

All that said, there ARE other reels in the market. I'm just coming from a place that James has been rock solid with his product and integrity of service. I trust that this new reel will be what I've stated based upon his track record and trust.

Per krabill's comment, he might have a match there too.

Good luck with the endeavor
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Save up and get a used Lindgren Pitman S1200. You can often get them for $4000 if you keep an eye out. There is no substitute.
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If you just want to bring the weight up, get an electric drill and a handle adapter. Hooker (I think?) makes one, and reel cranky is another.

For about $200 (including a drill and batteries) all of your weight retrieve worries will be gone. It also leaves you free to fight the fish stand up. You can't do that with an lp.

A lot of charter boats have gone this route. It gives the anglers a way to fight the fish.....
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Originally Posted by IPA1 View Post
You can find lightly used Krystal reels for around $1k. The 651's will easily bring in Mr. Swordie.
Yep, this is the answer. The 651's are work horses. I prefer the 655 with the electronics though.
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
If you just want to bring the weight up, get an electric drill and a handle adapter. Hooker (I think?) makes one, and reel cranky is another.

For about $200 (including a drill and batteries) all of your weight retrieve worries will be gone. It also leaves you free to fight the fish stand up. You can't do that with an lp.

A lot of charter boats have gone this route. It gives the anglers a way to fight the fish.....
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Think outside of the box for a second & itís really easier than most people think, Iíll elaborate. The primary function of an electric reel should be to retrieve lead, not fight a swordfish.

When you get a sword bite, set the hook to confirm there is a fish on, then let out some line so your weight starts to pull the fish down. The fish will instinctively oppose being pulled to the bottom & start to swim to the surface. The reel should only serve to take up the slack while this is happening, not pull the weight or fish to the surface.

Once the sword fights 10lbs of lead for 1600í, she will be good & tired. Unclip your weight, thatís when your actual ďfightĒ should begin.

You should be able to do this with any electric reel with the line capacity to go deep. The drill deal would work just the same. Pulling up on a few hundred pounds of fish for hours on end while itís swiming away from you is hard on any piece of gear.

This is is exactly the opposite of how 99% of people daytime but works beautifully.
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From an old article.

Among those who have entered the tournament so far, said Coot, was Lou Marron, who holds the world record for a swordfish (1,182 pounds), taken off Iquique, Chile in 1953.

1953, an 1182 pounder.
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Originally Posted by bayrunner16 View Post
From an old article.

Among those who have entered the tournament so far, said Coot, was Lou Marron, who holds the world record for a swordfish (1,182 pounds), taken off Iquique, Chile in 1953.

1953, an 1182 pounder.
Pretty crazy. I wonder what ole Lou was doing in Chile in 1953 in the first place. Much less having the time and chance to go hang a world record swordfish. Times have changed for sure.

I bet we was using a LP😎😎
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The suggestions of using the cordless drill method are spot on for budget swordfishing, however if you get into current and need more than 10lbs of weight even the best drills will eventually die out.
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Originally Posted by tenacious1 View Post


this^

Think outside of the box for a second & itís really easier than most people think, Iíll elaborate. The primary function of an electric reel should be to retrieve lead, not fight a swordfish.

When you get a sword bite, set the hook to confirm there is a fish on, then let out some line so your weight starts to pull the fish down. The fish will instinctively oppose being pulled to the bottom & start to swim to the surface. The reel should only serve to take up the slack while this is happening, not pull the weight or fish to the surface.

Once the sword fights 10lbs of lead for 1600í, she will be good & tired. Unclip your weight, thatís when your actual ďfightĒ should begin.

You should be able to do this with any electric reel with the line capacity to go deep. The drill deal would work just the same. Pulling up on a few hundred pounds of fish for hours on end while itís swiming away from you is hard on any piece of gear.

This is is exactly the opposite of how 99% of people daytime but works beautifully.

glad and you make it sound so easy, I assume you read a article or watched a video as there is very little in what you wrote that is true.

Letting line out after settling the hook is a good one.

The best statement is how tired it will be from swimming up the lead, thatís almost comical. Every sword acts different, I have seen 150lb fish swim swim from bottom to top and back down 3 or 4 times in one fight and still come up very green. I have also seen 400lb fish come up and just hang out by the boat asking to be harpooned.

You donít get to choose what size fish you hook so what happens when you hook that 4 or 500lb fish? Not many guy can go standup with a big sword for very long.


You absolutely can do it with a drill but daytiming isnít cheap or easy. If you want to do it on the cheap go at night.
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glad and you make it sound so easy, I assume you read a article or watched a video as there is very little in what you wrote that is true.

Letting line out after settling the hook is a good one.

The best statement is how tired it will be from swimming up the lead, thatís almost comical. Every sword acts different, I have seen 150lb fish swim swim from bottom to top and back down 3 or 4 times in one fight and still come up very green. I have also seen 400lb fish come up and just hang out by the boat asking to be harpooned.

You donít get to choose what size fish you hook so what happens when you hook that 4 or 500lb fish? Not many guy can go standup with a big sword for very long.


You absolutely can do it with a drill but daytiming isnít cheap or easy. If you want to do it on the cheap go at night.
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To the point Tenacious made: I think for those that dont know, or havent caught many this way, it is important to say that this is typically a strategy in fast current areas, given you retain a heavy weight. Also, the operative word is "strategy" vs the norm. I’m happy to say Ive witnessed it numerous times in S. FL watching some great fisherman and it is pretty darn amazing.

However, when I have witnessed the strategy of getting the sword to ride the weight up (or they chose to ride the weight up), it was more from the standpoint of let’s see if we can finesse this thing to the boat and get a shot with a dart before it takes a dive and/or takes us on a potential battle.

To Jajack's point, to make a generalization that the sword is "good and tired" is a pretty tough one to digest in general terms. Over time what you learn is that it’s often the opposite, it's actually quite perplexing and mind blowing how they DONT get "good and tired" after numerous trips up and down and numerous hours doing so. That being the case in fast OR slow current. That can be the case with a small OR large fish.

Again, IMHO, I think Tenacious pointed out a really cool strategy and if that's been his/her reality of fights than that's awesome. I just would caution the generalization of the fight.

Finally, to bring this back to the OP's question of a budget sword electric reel, there are many solutions for electrics whether its to full-on fight the fish, used to check baits or to do as Tenacious outlined. You don’t have to spend thousands of dollars on electrics. That's a choice. I would humbly submit that I wont tell someone on a certain budget they have to spend x amount of money. The proof to that is a wide array of success using different equipment. Some folks just flat out prefer different electric solutions. The market doesn’t lie for the success and demand across products.

Respectfully, to each his own to find the best and most appropriate solution for them.
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Yep, this is the answer. The 651's are work horses. I prefer the 655 with the electronics though.
I've been more than pleased with the XL 651 for swordfishing in Texas. They are really well built so I wouldn't be scared of one that is used as long as it doesn't look too beat up. You can save some more money on the overall set up if you just buy a butt that takes the same ferrule size as one of your 50 or 80 class trolling rods.
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I have caught 3 swords on my 651 no problem
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