Notices
Like Tree14Likes

Budget swordfish electric reel

Old 04-14-2019, 04:42 PM
  #21  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: WPB, Fl.
Posts: 10,308
Default

Originally Posted by Texasblue View Post
To the point Tenacious made: I think for those that dont know, or havent caught many this way, it is important to say that this is typically a strategy in fast current areas, given you retain a heavy weight. Also, the operative word is "strategy" vs the norm. Iím happy to say Ive witnessed it numerous times in S. FL watching some great fisherman and it is pretty darn amazing.

However, when I have witnessed the strategy of getting the sword to ride the weight up (or they chose to ride the weight up), it was more from the standpoint of letís see if we can finesse this thing to the boat and get a shot with a dart before it takes a dive and/or takes us on a potential battle.

To Jajack's point, to make a generalization that the sword is "good and tired" is a pretty tough one to digest in general terms. Over time what you learn is that itís often the opposite, it's actually quite perplexing and mind blowing how they DONT get "good and tired" after numerous trips up and down and numerous hours doing so. That being the case in fast OR slow current. That can be the case with a small OR large fish.

Again, IMHO, I think Tenacious pointed out a really cool strategy and if that's been his/her reality of fights than that's awesome. I just would caution the generalization of the fight.

Finally, to bring this back to the OP's question of a budget sword electric reel, there are many solutions for electrics whether its to full-on fight the fish, used to check baits or to do as Tenacious outlined. You donít have to spend thousands of dollars on electrics. That's a choice. I would humbly submit that I wont tell someone on a certain budget they have to spend x amount of money. The proof to that is a wide array of success using different equipment. Some folks just flat out prefer different electric solutions. The market doesnít lie for the success and demand across products.

Respectfully, to each his own to find the best and most appropriate solution for them.
I picked up a sweet Electramate 920 xp on a penn 9/0.
Barely used for 250.

Starting out night time here.

I imagine fish are like people.
Some like to fuss and fight.
Some do not.

The thing I love most is you never stop learning.
gofastsandman is offline  
Old 04-14-2019, 05:01 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pompano Beach
Posts: 890
Default

Originally Posted by gofastsandman View Post
I picked up a sweet Electramate 920 xp on a penn 9/0.
Barely used for 250.

Starting out night time here.

I imagine fish are like people.
Some like to fuss and fight.
Some do not.

The thing I love most is you never stop learning.
You don't need electric for the night but you did get one heck of a deal as the 12/0 is worth that alone if it is somewhat clean. It will make a good starter deep drop outfit even if you don't use it for Swords.
conchydong is offline  
Old 04-14-2019, 05:44 PM
  #23  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: WPB, Fl.
Posts: 10,308
Default

Originally Posted by conchydong View Post
You don't need electric for the night but you did get one heck of a deal as the 12/0 is worth that alone if it is somewhat clean. It will make a good starter deep drop outfit even if you don't use it for Swords.

Very nice condition and has new carbon tex drag and the gears have little wear at all.
9/0 though.
The clicker spring has a bad shape and set so i have that ordered.
Thinking about a Tiburon frame.
gofastsandman is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 06:44 AM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 829
Default

From what I understand, the best bang for your buck are the Dolphin electric reels. You can pick them up on Ebay used mated to an 80w international for under $3k.
HookMeUpII is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 06:54 AM
  #25  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 534
Default

Originally Posted by blaze em777 View Post
Most of the threads mention "this reel has caught a sword" but none either validate or even for sure say it can be used for the weekend deep drop guy.

Bottom line, hand cranking an 80w fron the bottom is not going to cut it for the limited time I get to fish, but the double edge is I dont fish enough to drop 5k on what I am looki g for.

my question is, is there an "electric reel starter pack" somewhere between a full blown deep drop swordfish reel and something that might catch one with some luck?

something in between an LP and a tanacom?

Cue the millenial jokes...
Where do you fish out of? Makes a huge difference.
hamma job is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 07:21 AM
  #26  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,864
Default

Originally Posted by tenacious1 View Post


I can only hope to one day know so much that I close my mind to ideas different than what I think I know. Congratulations.
With all due respect most sword bites don't end up as you describe. They don't come up and hand you the weight and sometimes the stronger the drag the harder they fight. I don't think the weight tires them as quickly as you describe. It's is usual the case you are in for a back and fourth battle. Like someone said every bite is different.
TUNEE is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 07:42 AM
  #27  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 55
Default

Originally Posted by hamma job View Post
Where do you fish out of? Makes a huge difference.
Port Aransas, TX.
blaze em777 is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 07:56 AM
  #28  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 534
Default

Originally Posted by blaze em777 View Post
Port Aransas, TX.
I would use an 80W and just turn the handle until you can afford a swordfish reel. Fishing for swordfish is fishing for a fish of a lifetime. Id rather go through the agony of cranking a handle when I don't catch anything then being tied into a lifetime fish with an inadequate electric reel.
hamma job is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 10:08 AM
  #29  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Texas
Posts: 683
Default

There's a difference between getting it done most of the time vs some of the time.

Most of the time a Shimano Beastmaster will work just fine as long as most of the time is really only some of the time. You also have to be ok with the possibility that if you hook into a fish of a lifetime that takes you on a 10 hour tour you may fry the reel or lose the fish or both.

If you want the odds more in your favor then you gotta pay to play.
R Days likes this.
txtightline is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 10:36 AM
  #30  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
THT sponsor
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,375
Default

just make sure your contraption has a handle in case it breaks, you can still get the line back on the reel
PINER_WAHOO is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 01:04 PM
  #31  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 829
Default

Originally Posted by PINER_WAHOO View Post
just make sure your contraption has a handle in case it breaks, you can still get the line back on the reel
This actually disqualifies the biggest baddest reel of them all...the LP.

Can't say I disagree with your philosophy.
HookMeUpII is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 01:43 PM
  #32  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 27
Default

Blazemm, I would hate to hook anything I couldnt lift with one hand on one of the smaller reels being mentioned. These fish are incredibly strong and just sit in the thermoclines as long as they want. You have to be able to put some drag on them. Pretty simple, longer fight time = more chances to lose a fish.

I fish the same general area (Freeport) and we have the luxury of not much current so IMO fish as light a weight as possible when daytiming. Most the time we use a 2 or 3 lb weight attached about 15' from the windon with a longline clip. We use 8 lbs of rebar on a piece of wire to get the bait to the bottom quick with no tangles, but that weight comes off.

Here is what 40 lbs of drag on 88" LFJL looks like almost an hour and half into the fight. At this point the fish was just sitting 300-400 ft below the boat.


SHEGONE is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 01:45 PM
  #33  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 558
Default

Hypothetical Question:
if Iím fishing with 10lbs of lead & my reel is set to 18lbs of drag, how much pressure am I putting on the fish while pulling the lead & fish up 1500í?

now, if I use an electric reel to only pull the slack while the fish swims opposite the 10lbs of lead pulling down on it, how much pressure is on the fish?

Which way way puts more stress on a budget electric setup?


A fish will will do what itís going to do in either scenario. It can bounce between the bottom & surface 10 times, swim horizontal for miles, bust the surface, etc. Iíve had them hang out at different depths for long periods of time, then swim up or down a few hundred feet & settle back into that same depth multiple times. I havenít the faintest idea why, as mentioned each fish is different.

The method I discussed just has a fish fighting a weight vs fighting a reel no matter what the fish does during the fight. At no point did I insinuate that this method keeps the fish from bottom bouncing or anything else. Itís not a shortcut that cuts your catch time in 1/2, never claimed it to be. The fish doesnít magically swim to the boat in record time to get darted, never claimed that either (although it would be nice).

The goal is is to have the fish worn out before you unclip the weigh & start to pull on the fish with the reel.

The opís question was how can I catch a sword without dropping $5k on a reel or hand cranking it from the bottom. I think I answered that pretty well with a method that works for me.

The method i described works in the depths I fish & current I fish in. It may be completely useless and not work anywhere else in the world, I couldnít tell you.
txtightline likes this.
tenacious1 is offline  
Old 04-15-2019, 02:07 PM
  #34  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 1,110
Default

LP all the way
581 pnd sword
TUNEE and hamma job like this.
splinter25 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread