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Side / Down Vu Transducers for the new Garmin 7600xsv Series

Old 03-28-2015, 10:16 AM
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Thumbs up Side / Down Vu Transducers for the new Garmin 7600xsv Series



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Here is a brief and general walk thru for the Side Vu and Down Vu transducers available to use on the new Garmin 7600xsv units.


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The transom mounts do have a bit of size to them



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Garmin GT20-TM – Transom Mount DownVü 500 W (CHIRP 455/800 kHz) Traditional 500 W (77/200 kHz) Transducer with Temp (8-pin)
Part Number: 010-12087-01

This has CHIRP Down Vu only...no Side VU.
500 W 2D traditional 77/200 kHz sonar.

Available as a transom mount only
$89.

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Garmin GT30-TM – Transom Mount DownVü/SideVü 500 W (CHIRP 455/800 kHz) Scanning Transducer with Temp (12-pin)
Part Number: 010-12089-00


This has CHIRP Side Vu and Down Vu only...this does not have a built in 2D sonar element

Transom and thru hull single or thru hull pair

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Garmin GT21-TM – Transom Mount DownVü 500 W (CHIRP 260/455 kHz) Traditional 600 W (50/200 kHz) Transducer with Temp (8-pin)
Part Number: 010-12219-00


The CHIRP structure 260 kHz element.. being a lower frequency.. will have a little less detail than the 800 kHz but you will gain in greater structure depth capability.
Transom and thru hull single..

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Garmin GT40-TM – Transom Mount DownVü/SideVü 500 W (CHIRP 455/800 kHz) Traditional 500 W (77/200 kHz) Transducer with Temp (12-pin)
Part Number: 010-12220-00


The CHIRP structure 455 / 800 having the higher frequency 800 kHz is very sensitive and will give good structure detail ....I have found this transducer best in water less than about 150' for structure...
The 2D sonar element is a traditional 77/200 kHz.
Transom mount only

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Garmin GT41-TM – Transom Mount DownVü/SideVü 500 W (CHIRP 260/455 kHz) Traditional 600 W (50/200 kHz) Transducer with Temp (12-pin)
Part Number: 010-12221-00



The CHIRP 260/ 455 kHz element will give a bit less detail but you will gain in overall depth capability .....structure targets to 300' plus a tad possible
Transom or thru hull single or pair

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Garmin GT50M-TM – Transom Mount DownVü/SideVü 500 W (CHIRP 455/800 kHz) Traditional 300 W (Mid-band CHIRP 80-160 kHz) Transducer with Temp (12-pin)
Part Number: 010-12222-00



Now we have full CHIRP for both the Side/Down and 2D sonar elements.
The 2D 300 watt CHIRP sonar element is very similar to the TM150/B150.
Transom or thru hull single or pair



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Garmin GT51M-TM – Transom Mount DownVü/Side Vü 500 W (CHIRP 260/455 kHz) Traditional 600 W (Mid-band CHIRP 80-160 kHz) Transducer with Temp (12-Pin)
Part Number: 010-12223-00


With this transducer.. the 2D 600 watt CHIRP element is very similar to the B75M and is a step up in sensitivity over the TM150/B150 element.

The Structure element is 260 kHz which gives overall greater structure depth capabilty
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8) Garmin GT22HW-TM Plastic, Transom or Trolling Motor Mount Transducer, High Wide CHIRP (150-240 kHz, 250 W)/CHIRP DownVü (455/800 kHz, 500 W) (8-pin)
Beam Width (°) LF/HF (-3dB):
Traditional: 24/16 cone
DownVü:
2.0x50@455
1.0x30@800

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Transom or thru hull single or pair

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Mounting a single or dual thru hull ducer


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If there is a placement on the hull near the keel of less than 5 degrees you can probably use a single thru hull structure transducer..
But if more than 5 degrees then the pair is required.



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And if you have a true flat spot ..zero degree..you can mount just the element....and do not have to use the fairing.


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Old 04-15-2015, 08:30 AM
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So is this garmin side scan using CHIRP (is it better than the techn humminbird and simrad/lowrance came out with)?
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Gil,
If I pair the GT51M-TH transducer with a 7612xsv, do I need any other transducers?
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Riptide31 View Post
So is this garmin side scan using CHIRP (is it better than the techn humminbird and simrad/lowrance came out with)?
Totally superior...Garmin is the only manufacture to offer Side and Down scan with CHIRP processing.

And look at the multiple structure scan ducer selections form Garmin..7 total.
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Originally Posted by fishingdeac View Post
Gil,
If I pair the GT51M-TH transducer with a 7612xsv, do I need any other transducers?
No..you will have 2D CHIRP sonar and also CHIRP Side and Down Vu.

that should take care of your needs for fishing in 500' and less.



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Gil --

What transducer pairing would you recommend for a 45' Carolina Boat. It does have a small keel which is 0 degrees. Mostly offshore trolling and deep water fishing, some bottom fishing. I am planning on buying two of the Garmin 7610 displays. Also would you recommend the xsv model or get a external GSD?

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Originally Posted by ringle_2012 View Post
Gil --

What transducer pairing would you recommend for a 45' Carolina Boat. It does have a small keel which is 0 degrees. Mostly offshore trolling and deep water fishing, some bottom fishing. I am planning on buying two of the Garmin 7610 displays. Also would you recommend the xsv model or get a external GSD?

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You can use 2 transducers.
a GT51 thru hull single on the 0 degree...and also a B175M for deep dropping.

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Gil, im running a 7610 with a B75m thru hull, Id like to add the side/downvu to it, but use a transom mount, would the GT30 be all I need?
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Originally Posted by shaggymedic View Post
Gil, im running a 7610 with a B75m thru hull, Id like to add the side/downvu to it, but use a transom mount, would the GT30 be all I need?
Correct..
Just go with GT30..it has the same side and down elements as found in the GT50.
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Awesome, thank you sir
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Thanks for the info, as always, Gil. Two questions. I fish primarily off of Stuart, FL (less than 400 ft) but like to deep drop off the Bahama bank (down to 1200 ft).

-Any chance a pair of GT51s would mark bottom/fish at 1200 ft? Or would a larger traditional thru-hull be necessary?
-Have you heard of any boat performance changes with the larger GT51s with fairings?
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Originally Posted by AlreadyThere View Post
Thanks for the info, as always, Gil. Two questions. I fish primarily off of Stuart, FL (less than 400 ft) but like to deep drop off the Bahama bank (down to 1200 ft).

-Any chance a pair of GT51s would mark bottom/fish at 1200 ft? Or would a larger traditional thru-hull be necessary?
-Have you heard of any boat performance changes with the larger GT51s with fairings?
The thru hull GT51 would mark bottom at 1200'..I have marked it at 1500' in good water conditions...but not fish.

For fish..400 ' to 500' plus a tad...is about its limit for being accurate...
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Thanks for the info!

Another thought to ponder. I doubt there's an answer yet as the ducers are so new. Looks as if I'll need the B175 for the deep drops. That would also suffice marking at speed. Do you think it would be functional to mount a single GT51-TM behind a deep V just above the water column while on plane? This might be a solution to two potential problems. 1) having to buy a pair of GT51-THs 2) avoiding water resistance while running.

My immediate concerns would be there might be too much turbulence/bubbles behind the hull even at speeds less than 5 MPH. Also, there might be interference picked up from the engines and/or back of the transom.
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Gil,
Have 2 7610xsv's and need to see fish around 1100'.Boat came with a transom mount with a 7608.
Looking for more power for deep dropping but functional for 160' or so and 35 knots.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.You sold me one of the Garmin 7610's So far very pleased,just need a little more power I guess.
Thanks in advance
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I doubt that most 1 kw transducers will see fish at 1100' with reliability...but the one I would suggest is the B175M..
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I'm not sure if my boat is a cored hull, but would be open to a in hull transducer. Recommendations??
I'd like to get rid of TM's
Thanks for your time,as always
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Originally Posted by dryhydro View Post
I'm not sure if my boat is a cored hull, but would be open to a in hull transducer. Recommendations??
I'd like to get rid of TM's
Thanks for your time,as always
Cored hull no problem...Airmar has instructions to mount in a cored hull.



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Gil,
Upon your recommendation,I plan to keep this rig until I retire and am installing the best equipment I can afford. I have the room for the in hull td and have the R599lh/R599lm in mind and believe we can handle the install. If a lesser model will work better,please advise. I'm just looking for the best info at speed and deep dropping/Swords.
Which one would you recommend? Can you get one for me? How long and how much? Is it plug and play to my 7610?
I sincerely appreciate all your time and effort, and look forward to working with you again
I believe the hull is solid FG
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Originally Posted by dryhydro View Post
Gil,
Upon your recommendation,I plan to keep this rig until I retire and am installing the best equipment I can afford. I have the room for the in hull td and have the R599lh/R599lm in mind and believe we can handle the install. If a lesser model will work better,please advise. I'm just looking for the best info at speed and deep dropping/Swords.
Which one would you recommend? Can you get one for me? How long and how much? Is it plug and play to my 7610?
I sincerely appreciate all your time and effort, and look forward to working with you again
I believe the hull is solid FG
The 7610xsv cannot fire the R599 ....you need to add the GSD-26.
and yes...I carry the R599.


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I think after reading your very helpful info in other areas and sites,I've decided to go with the R111LH.
Please pm me a price for all components required to install and interface with my 7610's.
This should include sounder mod. if required. etc. The install will be on a 31 Pursuit and I don't think I'll need an extension.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, and look forward to working with you again.
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