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Old 08-01-2018, 08:02 PM
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I own a Super Snorkel that I've had for years now. It used to work perfect and I'd dive 20-25' with no issues. I just had it serviced (general mechanic) and it appears to be running good. My issue is this:
I can breath under water with it, but I have to draw slow shallow breaths. If I go below 7-10', I can no longer breath with it.
I've tried everything imaginable from googling the company to YouTube. I can't seem to figure out the problem. The mechanic even told me that he feels that the compressor has enough pressure.
Does anyone here have any ideas on what the issue might be or lead me in the right direction? Could it be an issue with the regulators, the hoses or is there some type of filter I don't know about? Any replies would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:08 PM
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Check to make sure that the hose doesn't have a split in it somewhere. I had an older Brownie's Third Lung and had that exact same thing happen twice. Both times I checked and found a split in the heavy hose near where it attached to the compressor. If I remember correctly, it was near the exhaust and I think the heat caused it to deteriorate and split.
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:22 PM
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What's the pressure set for on the regulators, scuba is around 125 PSI, regulators for hookah operate at a lower pressure. Your mechanic may have set the regs for scuba. Have the regulators checked out/serviced by a dive shop, make sure they understand it is for hookah and needs adjustment to work on lower pressure

Check out the compressor PSI output
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Old 08-02-2018, 04:26 AM
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Rebuild or buy a new regulator
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:05 AM
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check for leaks around the connectors and check pressure at depth
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Old 08-02-2018, 10:03 AM
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Need to check pressure at the compressor discharge without breathing, and then while breathing. As noted above, Scuba regs are set higher than hookah regs. If you get a big pressure drop when breathing but static pressure is ok, it could be compressor problem.
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:07 PM
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If it has a compressor like the Thomas on my Airline rig, you probably broke a reed. Had it happen twice, have to take apart the compressor to change, not that big of a deal.
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Old 08-03-2018, 04:56 AM
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Thanks for the replies. The regulators weren't touched by the mechanic. I believe it has to be a compressor issue. What gets me is that the mechanic said the compressor is ok. I'll try to get a second opinion.
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:54 AM
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I'm really not familiar with the Super Snorkel, but I am familiar with scuba regulators. I had to google the Super Snorkel to see what it is and if there is any information on it.

From what you describe, you are clearly not getting enough air delivered to the second stage regulator. That's why you can't breathe below 10'. You need more air as you go deeper.
From the model I was able to find online (looks to be slightly different from the one you posted) there should be an adjustable regulator to change the output pressure between 5 and 100 psi. Does yours have that? Is there any pressure gauge on your unit?

Here's the part that is somewhat puzzling to me. Another poster mentioned this as well. Most scuba regulator 1st stages have an intermediate pressure (IP) set between 125-145 PSI. That IP is the pressure that is in the lines and goes to the 2nd stage regulator. When you draw a breath, the valve opens on the 2nd stage, and pulls down the pressure in the hose. The first stage valve then opens to bring the pressure back up to the IP. The same concept applies in your case. While there is no tank, there is a 1st and second stage regulator. The 1st stage is the adjustable regulator on the unit. The second stage is what you breathe from.

So, it could be a few things.
When was the last time the 2nd stage regulator was serviced? If it's been a while, you may want to bring it in to a dive shop to have it serviced. I'd be shocked if Super Snorkel made their own 2nd stage. If you could post a few pics of the 2nd stage, someone might be able to identify it. Dive shop should know before servicing that it's for a Super Snorkel with a max pressure of 100 psi.
Could also be that your first stage regulator is not working or not capable of delivering the right amount of air. Looks like these are replaceable and not very expensive.
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Checked the airline hose filter?
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:15 AM
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[QUOTE=Kevin38;11674025 My mechanic even told me that he feels that the compressor has enough pressure.[/QUOTE]

"Feels" that the compressor has enough pressure? Feelings and mechanics are two totally different subjects.

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Old 08-05-2018, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepers View Post
Checked the airline hose filter?
To be honest, didn't even know it had one. I'll take more pics of it later today and post them. Maybe some of you here can point a few things out to me.
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The white piece at end of hose looks like a filter. Inspect for debris. I'm guessing the pvc going into compressor is the air intake? I hope there is a filter that goes on the end. Compressor could have sucked in junk. I'm still going with new or rebuild regulator. Does the regulator button work to clear air?
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Originally Posted by jeepers View Post
The white piece at end of hose looks like a filter. Inspect for debris. I'm guessing the pvc going into compressor is the air intake? I hope there is a filter that goes on the end. Compressor could have sucked in junk. I'm still going with new or rebuild regulator. Does the regulator button work to clear air?
Yes the regulator button clears air.
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I see a y pipe for a second hose. You need to put a pressure guage on it.
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I would check pressure at each end of the red hose. That hose is next to the compressor and it gets hot. Over a period of time it gets brittle. Mine split and was not visible at a cursory glance. I had to look for it, but when I did I found a small split.

Those compressors are really simple. I think mine has a blow-out valve somewhere in case it builds up too much pressure. That valve may be an issue.

Can you hook up your line, crank the compressor and listen for leaks? If the regulator isn't being used, it will build up pressure and the pressure release valve will expel air intermittently.
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Originally Posted by rickpcfl View Post
I would check pressure at each end of the red hose. That hose is next to the compressor and it gets hot. Over a period of time it gets brittle. Mine split and was not visible at a cursory glance. I had to look for it, but when I did I found a small split.

Those compressors are really simple. I think mine has a blow-out valve somewhere in case it builds up too much pressure. That valve may be an issue.

Can you hook up your line, crank the compressor and listen for leaks? If the regulator isn't being used, it will build up pressure and the pressure release valve will expel air intermittently.
What should the pressure be if I check it?
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Found this ball of lint in one of the filters. Still don't think that's the problem.

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