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2 divers die in Eagles Nest cave in Florida.

Old 10-18-2016, 11:17 AM
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Used to be Full cave certified. Still have some friends in the business who I would trust with my life. Very dangerous sport and I would never wish this sort of event on any family who has to endure the loss of a loved one. "Died doing what they loved" is scant comfort to those who will miss you forever. Anyone considering this sport needs to really think hard about who you might leave behind if things go badly for you down there. My deepest condolences for the departed and their families.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:23 AM
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I grew up right by there......many, many have died in there over the years. I don't know the numbers, but it's at least 10 deaths, if not more. Very unassuming place. I have dove it before just to see what the attraction was, but never penetrated the cave......I didn't find it anymore appealing than any other dark sink hole in Florida.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:28 AM
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I used to dive quite a bit, but haven't in years. I don't care if the cave is 3 feet long and 1 foot under the water, I wasn't gonna swim through it. Just thinking about it gives me the dry heaves. I don't have a fear of much, but swimming through underwater caves ranks pretty high up there.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:34 AM
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A lot of the latest cave divers have gone to rebreathers which adds again to the complexity.

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Old 10-18-2016, 11:49 AM
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Until the investigation of mixes, remaining air and computers is complete there is only broad speculation as to what could have occurred and what could have prevented the tragedy. Whatever the conclusion it was likely the compounding of 2 or more issues at once to take 2 experienced divers.
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:53 AM
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I've been by that spring quite a few times on my enduro. RIP to the adventure seekers and prayers for their families...
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by scmidt View Post
I used to dive quite a bit, but haven't in years. I don't care if the cave is 3 feet long and 1 foot under the water, I wasn't gonna swim through it. Just thinking about it gives me the dry heaves. I don't have a fear of much, but swimming through underwater caves ranks pretty high up there.
Do a night dive, on some reef out in the middle of the ocean and then shut off your light, then take your mask off....surely that otta scramble some of your brain cells as well.

Have a light failure in a smaller cave 3 - 4 ft across or where you are siltted out and then you start clunking off of walls and ceiling....that will challenge your mind. Have your face mask kicked off by the person in front of you that also just siltted up the place will challenge every ounce of juice you have in you to not loose it.

Panic underwater doesn't just creep up on the diver, it explodes on them in seconds. If a diver doesn't control their panic death will be their comfort.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:17 PM
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I can only imagine the horror perceived once one were to realize that the way out can't be found and the air supply is running out.

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Old 10-18-2016, 12:22 PM
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I am not a cave diver. I did look into in some detail and agree with all that it is super intense and tons of training and equipment.

My point was it is two completely different narratives between the inherit dangers and risk naturally occurring in the sport of cave diving for a highly certified and qualified diver and some macho noob who jumps into a cave and thinks he is bad ass and swims around and gets lost and dies. The article does not clearly establish which event occurred and paints an unclear picture.

much respect to you guys who are cave divers. it is certainly a different level of extreme.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:24 PM
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Sad. this is just a few miles from my office. Happens every year or so...
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:26 PM
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I have a lot of dive experience over thousands of dives and I have always said this about cave diving....you can do everything right and still die. I still prefer my dives with no overheard environment.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:27 PM
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Didn't a father and son buddy team die there last year about Christmas time? I believe they were not cave certified.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jecaro View Post
Didn't a father and son buddy team die there last year about Christmas time? I believe they were not cave certified.
Christmas Day
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:35 PM
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Cave diving is many more times dangerous than open water. Every year, I read about experienced divers who die because of navigation errors, equipment failures, etc.

Earlier this month I was diving offshore NC. At 96 feet, my regulator hose ruptured. The 2nd stage got hung up in my gear and all I could see was bubbles, couldn't even read my computer in front of my face. I always dive with a pony tank, so switched over to that and did my ascent. The pony was low, only 800 lbs of air, so I didn't have a lot of time to waste. If that incident had occurred in a cave passage that only let one diver through at a time, I would have been dead meat.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bluffman2 View Post
Christmas Day
2013. Found at 230'. They only had air.
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2013. Found at 230'. They only had air.
I didnt know the year, only remembering how bad that had to suck for the family...loss of life is bad enough, but dang...Christmas Day
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bluffman2 View Post
I didnt know the year, only remembering how bad that had to suck for the family...loss of life is bad enough, but dang...Christmas Day
Yeah, unthinkable. 15 year old boy and his dad trying out new Christmas stuff.
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and neither was cave certified.....

Here is a 50 page thread about the Father/Son incident from a dive website I belong to ....Scubaboard

http://www.scubaboard.com/community/...ssa-fl.472730/

I hope I am not breaking any rules by posting this if so feel free to delete.

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Old 10-18-2016, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bluffman2 View Post
for 1 im claustrophobic
I used to dive but as far as caves go, I don't like going in one that doesn't have water.
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I am about to get OW certified, I am claustrophobic, I would never go into an overhead environment, ever no matter what. Just reading all of these posts, especially the ones from the experienced divers here, is making me physically ill, that's some serious stuff you guys do, a special breed of people. Man, I can't even sit still in my chair, gotta stand up and move around, take some deep breaths....Ugh.
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