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Old 11-06-2012, 11:17 AM
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Question Line-X Open Question Thread.

This is an open thread for everyone to ask Line-X application questions, post pictures & discuss specifics important to you!
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:44 PM
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I really like the light blue ,on the Contender.Can this be a do it yourself project?Does Deck need to be Primed first? It wont be long ,an I will be making these kinds of decisions on a rebuild...
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We do prime the boats prior to Line-X. It is not a do it yourself application and has taken us years to get our systems down. In general the math works like this on many of the things we do especially boats. For a truck we start at $475 and install 5-8 gallons of 100% solids material. If you bought five gallons of DIY you could save money and have us install Line-X and not lift a finger. The product performance and finish is not even close!

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Old 11-07-2012, 05:26 PM
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I understand that but I live in North Carolina,an that sounds like a Loooong way from You guys...
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We see youve done lots of your own testing and development to make the boat and tank coatings bond well, but what do people do who dont live within your area that want it? Are all your methods and material changes fed back to linex and being taught throughout your fellow industry members? Will a linex guy in Boston and LA have the same methods and material knowledge to match Sarasota linex?? Are you keeping your process proprietery or sharing it with other linex members? Based on your expertise, I would have a tough time trusting someone else who doesnt have the experience under their belt.
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Brian can probably answer you better, but when I was in the market to get my boat sprayed, the Line-X shop in my area wanted nothing to do with it. I trailered my boat across the state to get it done.....well worth it.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:35 AM
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Corp. does a ton of commercial & industrial training both in house and group training from SSPC with the network. I have been spraying Line-X for 13 years and know a ton of good guys around the country. There are also a ton of guys who don't even stock primer & only spray black truck bed liners..
I can only control what happens at my shop. At my shop 3 of my 4 guys have been with me for four years or more. We push the limits on taking on hard jobs from spraying electrical conduit under a condo building to a 45 foot crab boat on the water in the keys. Everyday we get better and learn new stuff. We have made mistakes that have been very painful. It is the experience from these that we bring to the table on spraying such a high liability thing as your boat.
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do you have the pics of the t-top you did in a smooth white finish yet?
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I have the leaning post done. I will start a build thread on Mahimaster's Conch 27 and post them there!
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Originally Posted by Sarasota Line X View Post
Corp. does a ton of commercial & industrial training both in house and group training from SSPC with the network. I have been spraying Line-X for 13 years and know a ton of good guys around the country. There are also a ton of guys who don't even stock primer & only spray black truck bed liners..
I can only control what happens at my shop. At my shop 3 of my 4 guys have been with me for four years or more. We push the limits on taking on hard jobs from spraying electrical conduit under a condo building to a 45 foot crab boat on the water in the keys. Everyday we get better and learn new stuff. We have made mistakes that have been very painful. It is the experience from these that we bring to the table on spraying such a high liability thing as your boat.
As EOD mentioned, he had to drive over to you guys because of the inexperience of a local applicator....the materials are the same throughout the Linex industry, but you can't replace hands on knowledge......tough for us guys from 1000 or 2000 miles away to get something like a deck sprayed. It wouldn't be cost effective to trailer a boat down and back, and yet giving it to a local guy with minimal to no experience doing boats and tanks is even a bigger gamble.....will be cheaper up front, but long term results may suffer......I would hate to pay someone 3k and then have the stuff peel up 3 years later because of poor prep or inexperienced application.....
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Yes the materials are available to the network. One of the major reason we have launched this forum is we have been dialing in a new system Line-X XS 650 for marine applications. I have around $40,000 and a year and a half into it and am finally comfortable enough to release it to the general public. Besides a store working with Disney I am the only one to have it!! You will see a sticky about it soon! Now you have more of a reason for you to bring your boat down !!
Here is the Whaler we sprayed last week in a Off White with 650 & a bracket in Ice Blue.
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Mahimaster's Bracket for his new Conch 27 being built.
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That is some nice lookin pieces right there Boys...
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:08 AM
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I just looked an You,an your Partners in Crime,LOL are like 740 miles South of Me.But I do like the way everything in the Pics. is Uniform Looking.Maybe look at my rebuild thread an get me a Quote.I was down that way @ 2 months ago,buying 2 engines,Keeping my fingers crossed they will be Good engines...I do want a Quote,an I will Smoke it over with my Bride...
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okay, here is my question............
If I had a homemade wood strip canoe or kayak, is there a smooth and flexible coating that could be applied just thick enough to make it stay afloat ?
And if there is, could I construct the wood strips in a crude manner with gaps and cracks here there versus fitting everything dead to nuts tight and sanding it all to a splinterless smoothness as varnish would require?
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:37 PM
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Yes but we would want to use a filler to prevent holidays. The Line-X coatings in general will shadow the substrate IE if there is a hole or crack before there will be one after although smaller. So we could use a PL , bondo, or even 5200 to create a smooth single piece to spray.
I would use our EPX primer that is thicker to belp fill & our XS-430 Line-X has a slower 13 second set time and 400%+ elongation. It actually gets really hard for being so stretchy. We keep it in stock and use it on concrete and for the commercial rub rails on boats.

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Any pictures of keels?
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I am near Charleston, SC. If I was in southern FL, trailering my mako rebuild to you to do the interior would be a no brainer.
Is your system something the guys at Tri County here in town could do for me or are you keeping a lot of your methods proprietary, if you will?
Wanted to get your take on it before talking with the local guys.

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John is very good - one of the best. He can do a great job using our Line-X Xtra & Premium systems. If you want the new Line-X XS-650 I would say you need to bring the boat down. We have been working on dialing it in for almost two years. Line-X XS-650 requires a $3000 gun a dedicated spray machine and the purchase of the 650 itself. Then the system to install it in a boat which is where the real cost comes in.. And even though John is a friend of mine and I always share my success and testing with the network the Line-X 650 system we have developed at my shop is something I am keeping close to home..
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So 650 vs what he can do up here.... Is the big difference cosmetics or???
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The 650 has a finer texture more like the sanded non-skid you see on boats. Also the UV is built into the base coating for full thickness protection. Our other systems which have worked great in truck beds for 6 six years and in boats does have an inherit weakness. The UV protection is achieved by spraying a Kevlar topcoat(Line-X Xtra) or a newer Line-X Premium coating onto the Line-X material while still hot. If the applicator does not put enough onto the surface the long term durability performance is less. With 650 it's like spraying a non-skid yeti on your boat, and in QUV testing we are seeing results better then the paint on your truck!
We charge around $10 per square foot for the Line-X Xtra/Premium & $13 for the new Line-X XS-650
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