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Boater safety course/USCG 6 pack, PA/NJ specific

Old 03-28-2019, 01:00 PM
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Default Boater safety course/USCG 6 pack, PA/NJ specific

Ok, several questions, bear with me please. Me, PA resident, born before 1981 (way before), which means in PA i don't need to take a boaters safety course to operate a powered boat in PA. Although, I did take a PA boaters safety coarse many moons ago, no idea where my cert is or my card. That is my current status.

Now, I have a place in Jersey, south jersey been looking to pick up a small skiff to use in the southern back bays, may go for a larger skiff, so I can head out on the inshore if conditions warrant. So, what the heck do I need? I would assume a NJ boater safety course correct? Looks like I can take the course on line and then test in a proctored testing center in NJ. Can anyone confirm that? And what would my boat need? Registered in PA or should I register in NJ?

And if/when I do go and get the boater safety course, I would think that just for educational purposes I will probably go for the USCG 6 pack, even though I really doubt I will ever charter, just figure it is a good thing to have, just in case. Now it looks like that can be done the same way, take it the coarse on line and test in a proctored testing center. I know, I know, it would be much better to do it in person, but looking at schedules on line, that is like 3 full weekends, Friday night and all day Sat and Sunday for the course material before I can even take a test. I know me, sitting in a classroom situation will just hit the snooze button, figure with the online training I can work it around my schedule and double back on stuff I'm week on, maybe have it all done by end of summer and test over the winter, looks like pricing is the same whether i do it in person, or on line. Me personally, I think I would get a lot more out of it on line.

Like to hear any and all input. give it to me, I have thick skin........

TIA!!! Rip


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Old 03-28-2019, 04:40 PM
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Do what you feel works for you.

Youll either learn it or you won’t. It’s up to the individual not the location.

Ill take a highly motivated student that learns online vs a lazy student that goes to a classroom.

Id trust a motivated captain that took the time to learn the material online vs someone that sat in a seat for 9 days.

Same test at the end of the day. And oh by the way some instructors are amazing. Some stink. Keep that in mind as well.
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:49 PM
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For the 6-Pack, don't forget the costs of the physical, drug test and consortium enrollment. I believe you still need a TWIC for initial application ( I know for a fact it is not needed for renewal).

FWIW, if you are going to do the 6-Pack, go ahead and do the 50 or 100 Ton.
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Old 03-28-2019, 06:44 PM
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You will also need sea time. You didn't say whether you have any sea time off shore or near shore ocean time. If all your previous boating was in Pa your 6 pack would be for inland waters. 360 documented days at sea as an operator or mate. Good luck with your process. Also if you go for the 50 or 100 ton you will still need sea time on those size vessels for your credentials.
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Old 03-28-2019, 07:20 PM
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You will also need sea time. You didn't say whether you have any sea time off shore or near shore ocean time. If all your previous boating was in Pa your 6 pack would be for inland waters. 360 documented days at sea as an operator or mate. Good luck with your process. Also if you go for the 50 or 100 ton you will still need sea time on those size vessels for your credentials.
100% agree but I always felt this is ridiculous requirement. I would bet the number of 6 pack captains that have 360 DOCUMENTED days at sea is 0%.

Do I have 360? Probably. Do I have them documented? No. Will I make shit up just to reach the 360 requirement. Yes.

the problem is nobody (few) starts out boating thinking, 🤔 10 yeas down the road I might want to get a 6 pack. Better document every outing just in case.

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Old 03-29-2019, 05:56 AM
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As said above you may as well go for your masters assuming you have the sea time, the extra section on the test is like 80 questions long and basically the same as the 6pack test. I just submitted my application yesterday and man was it a pain in the ass to get everything together but I had the sea time which made things allot easier. I took the mariners learning courses which were OK but as said above it really depends on how motivated you are to learn the stuff, I think me and my buddy ended up with 98% overall on the test so it is pretty easy if you take the time to do all of the studying and take the practice quizes/tests until you have it down. Other costs are listed below which I didn't realize when I started mariners, I am sure you don't need all this stuff for 6pack but you're going to want to look into that because I have no clue. If it were me and I didn't plan on doing a charter I would register the boat to NJ or PA, take the free safety classes/training offered by the fishing partnership or similar and study the rules of the road on your own. Huge pain to go through all of this just for a piece of paper you wont use and you loose the ability to say I didn't know better when you get boarded or worse. You are smart to get the proper training and knowledge that most do not have but you should think about what you want out of it and if there's a better way to go about it. Good luck and post a pic of the skiff when you get it.

Cpr/first aid training 100$ (I found out yesterday the fishing partnership offers this for free)
TWIC card 120$
USCG approved Drug test/physical 200$
Mariners 900$ but me and my buddy got a buy one get one free deal so 450$. You could get this done in a few weeks if you commit 2-3 hours a day
application fee 145$

Other things you probably want to do while you're at it
Fishing partnership safety/survival class and drill instructor class
register your boat for charter (MA is 120$)
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Old 03-29-2019, 07:20 AM
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Great stuff all, thank you very much for the input, lot of stuff I was ignorant of. Looks like baby steps are the best route, or stick with my fishing kyack for the back bays!! I really appreicate all the input, its a maze out there on line. I have zero plans at the moment of running anything resembling a charter, so seems best to stick with the Boater safety and work it from there. Maybe step up to the 6 pack if the bug hits me.

And what do they consider documented hours? Like a log book? I used to work as a mate on tuna sport fisher out of Brielle back in the 80's, 3 day canyon runs. Before any paperwork was needed, or so I was told!!! Heck, a few summers of that definiely put me over the 360 mark, but that was over 30 years ago, since then, I probably have like 100 tops on power off shore or in, but I sure wasn't writing it down everytime I went out.
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You just need 90 days in the last 3 years, time starts when you are 16 years old. Its on the honor system so you just need to fill out a sheet with your days per moth/year
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Originally Posted by 26fsregcc View Post
You just need 90 days in the last 3 years, time starts when you are 16 years old. Its on the honor system so you just need to fill out a sheet with your days per moth/year
And you would need the owner of the Sportfish you mated on to sign off on your time prior.
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:50 AM
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Cpr/first aid training 100$ (I found out yesterday the fishing partnership offers this for free)
What's the fishing partnership?
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https://fishingpartnership.org/
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