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Old 09-17-2018, 12:47 PM
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My friends and I came up with a pretty good cheap plan over the summer while enjoying a few cold ones. We currently have a huge group of teenage boys that are obsessed with technology games etc.. At the same time the advances in technology have made surveillance cheap compared to 10 years ago. So here's our plan: Every town on the cape hires college kids for the summer who would be willing to run drones with mounted cameras up and down the ocean beaches during normal swimming hrs.. They go through a pre summer training program and they're ready to go. It's not that expensive a proposal and would allow our youth to become an important part of the solution and use their Playstation brilliance for something worthwhile. One kid runs the drone and his partner monitors the real time image that comes back. Imagine being the kid who saves lives on his beach today as he gives the lifeguard a call on the walkie talkie to clear the water.

Of course this isn't a perfect plan, but it would make people feel a lot more comfortable knowing that the water they're swimming in is being monitored. By the time a lifeguard sees a fin it could be too late.
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:55 PM
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My friends and I came up with a pretty good cheap plan over the summer while enjoying a few cold ones. We currently have a huge group of teenage boys that are obsessed with technology games etc.. At the same time the advances in technology have made surveillance cheap compared to 10 years ago. So here's our plan: Every town on the cape hires college kids for the summer who would be willing to run drones with mounted cameras up and down the ocean beaches during normal swimming hrs.. They go through a pre summer training program and they're ready to go. It's not that expensive a proposal and would allow our youth to become an important part of the solution and use their Playstation brilliance for something worthwhile. One kid runs the drone and his partner monitors the real time image that comes back. Imagine being the kid who saves lives on his beach today as he gives the lifeguard a call on the walkie talkie to clear the water.

Of course this isn't a perfect plan, but it would make people feel a lot more comfortable knowing that the water they're swimming in is being monitored. By the time a lifeguard sees a fin it could be too late.
1. Plover Lovers would freak out at this suggestion ^^^^ They even banned Kite boarding along the beach b/c it "scared the plovers".
2. Drones operated by teenage boys would be monitoring bikini's not sharks.

Time for people to change their behavior. Some big posters with bloody shark wounds "Swim at your own risk!!" would do the trick. Don't bleed out at the beach.

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Old 09-17-2018, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BigShrimpin View Post
1. Plover Lovers would freak out at this suggestion ^^^^ They even banned Kite boarding along the beach b/c it "scared the plovers".
2. Drones operated by teenage boys would be monitoring bikini's not sharks.

Time for people to change their behavior. Some big posters with bloody shark wounds "Swim at your own risk!!" would do the trick. Don't bleed out at the beach.

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Old 09-17-2018, 04:03 PM
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Here's a thought about the number of White Sharks spotted: Back in the day there were no phone cameras, no internet, no facebook or other social media to share the shark sightings. Also there were no spotter planes looking for the sharks. So maybe the number of sightings is not as high as compared to the past, just a thought.
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cman55 View Post
My friends and I came up with a pretty good cheap plan over the summer while enjoying a few cold ones. We currently have a huge group of teenage boys that are obsessed with technology games etc.. At the same time the advances in technology have made surveillance cheap compared to 10 years ago. So here's our plan: Every town on the cape hires college kids for the summer who would be willing to run drones with mounted cameras up and down the ocean beaches during normal swimming hrs.. They go through a pre summer training program and they're ready to go. It's not that expensive a proposal and would allow our youth to become an important part of the solution and use their Playstation brilliance for something worthwhile. One kid runs the drone and his partner monitors the real time image that comes back. Imagine being the kid who saves lives on his beach today as he gives the lifeguard a call on the walkie talkie to clear the water.

Of course this isn't a perfect plan, but it would make people feel a lot more comfortable knowing that the water they're swimming in is being monitored. By the time a lifeguard sees a fin it could be too late.
its more fun to kill off a bunch of seals then keep the population in check. Shatks then don't have easy prey in the surf.
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBWcontroller View Post
Here's a thought about the number of White Sharks spotted: Back in the day there were no phone cameras, no internet, no facebook or other social media to share the shark sightings. Also there were no spotter planes looking for the sharks. So maybe the number of sightings is not as high as compared to the past, just a thought.
Now now with your common sense. We don't need none of that up in here.
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:06 PM
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Now now with your common sense. We don't need none of that up in here.
From 1936 to 1996 there were three shark attacks in mass, we've had two including one fatal in a month, my money is on the bet that there are many more sharks around now than then.
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Now now with your common sense. We don't need none of that up in here.
nope. Keep your head stuck in the sand.
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by orcaII View Post

From 1936 to 1996 there were three shark attacks in mass, we've had two including one fatal in a month, my money is on the bet that there are many more sharks around now than then.
Well you see, we shot all the seals so there was no reason for them to stop on their driveby, so they weren't resident, and we were pretty good at killing sharks all along too. And before that, I doubt the outer beaches had much if any pleasure use, at least not compared to today. but feel free to provide anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
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Well you see, we shot all the seals so there was no reason for them to stop on their driveby, so they weren't resident, and we were pretty good at killing sharks all along too. And before that, I doubt the outer beaches had much if any pleasure use, at least not compared to today. but feel free to provide anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
Now you're just all over the place.
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:39 PM
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Here's a thought about the number of White Sharks spotted: Back in the day there were no phone cameras, no internet, no facebook or other social media to share the shark sightings. Also there were no spotter planes looking for the sharks. So maybe the number of sightings is not as high as compared to the past, just a thought.
There could be quite a bit of truth to that. The only thing that challenges that theory is the number of them that get stranded on shore or beach themselves has been much higher than ever before. Could that have been happening all along but never reported? I suppose so. But it's been happening with much more regularity in the past few years. There was even that one that got stranded in that pond (forget where it was) and stayed there for 10 days or something and it was updated daily on the radio and 6 o'clock news "ooooh aaaahh when is it going to leave" and all that. Plus 2 attacks this year an in all honesty, it's a friggin miracle that 61 year-old fella survived that bite wound. Did you see that? Oooof!
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:40 PM
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I was sorry to hear that this happened especially after the weekend of disaster in Massachusetts. I think the risk was blatantly obvious though, the Cape is Great White Central these days. It's hard for me to think of the sharks as "problems though/ Sharks in the ocean, they're just doing what sharks have spent like forever doing. It's also hard to watch this video and not think of what the problem is!

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lol, they should call it Sealomoy.
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:50 PM
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There could be quite a bit of truth to that. The only thing that challenges that theory is the number of them that get stranded on shore or beach themselves has been much higher than ever before. Could that have been happening all along but never reported? I suppose so. But it's been happening with much more regularity in the past few years. There was even that one that got stranded in that pond (forget where it was) and stayed there for 10 days or something and it was updated daily on the radio and 6 o'clock news "ooooh aaaahh when is it going to leave" and all that. Plus 2 attacks this year an in all honesty, it's a friggin miracle that 61 year-old fella survived that bite wound. Did you see that? Oooof!
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Originally Posted by ZBWcontroller View Post
Here's a thought about the number of White Sharks spotted: Back in the day there were no phone cameras, no internet, no facebook or other social media to share the shark sightings. Also there were no spotter planes looking for the sharks. So maybe the number of sightings is not as high as compared to the past, just a thought.
from another post—

Take a boat ride down the outer beaches and look at the number of badly wounded seals laying on the beach.
something that we never ever saw a decade ago. Just like dozens of seals swimming around in the harbors and rivers along the Sound side beaches. Just like Whites stealing hooked bass 20 ft off the transoms of charter boats has always happened, we just didn’t have the facebooks and instagrams to tell us about it. 🙄

What’s going on today is not normal, but is detrimental to the economy (and well, life) on the outer Cape. Listen to the people who live & fish there.

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Well you see, we shot all the seals so there was no reason for them to stop on their driveby, so they weren't resident, and we were pretty good at killing sharks all along too. And before that, I doubt the outer beaches had much if any pleasure use, at least not compared to today. but feel free to provide anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
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The night time surf casting off the backside of the cape was incredible before the seal explosion. You could catch all 25-30lb keeper bass you wanted without trying 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, late 80's and 1990's. There were Big bass inside pleasant bay too. Seal sightings were very very rare until the mid/late 1990's.

Anyone want to wade out chest deep off Nauset for some nighttime surf fishing?

http://stripersurf.com/daignault-memories-of-nauset-beach.html
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:02 PM
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Drones are great. When they have power, when its not too windy, not cloudy, not foggy, and the sun is overhead. So that is about what? 10% of the time?
We saw 6 sharks out East yesterday - 1 GW at Nauset Inlet in 18 feet, on the outside edge of the bar
So, we have a seal problem now...
And it isn't changing anytime soon, and neither will the behavior of the sharks.
Step 1, and I hate to say it - we have to change our behavior.
The wife hung up my surfboard (and the kid's boards) on Cape, which made it slightly easier to adjust
More fishing time is now the result.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by likwid View Post
Well you see, we shot all the seals so there was no reason for them to stop on their driveby, so they weren't resident, and we were pretty good at killing sharks all along too. And before that, I doubt the outer beaches had much if any pleasure use, at least not compared to today. but feel free to provide anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
Have some facts. Sightings are up dramatically.

Shark Spike: Increase in Sightings May Mean Populations Are Recovering
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Old 09-18-2018, 01:38 AM
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Likwid, the one thing we have always had are fisherman. The fisherman who grew up here see the dramatic change in the amount of seals and sharks. I think it would be hard to name another spot on earth where two great white attacks have occured back to back. The other guy almost died and is still in the hospital. Our waters are now shark infested. No one should be swimming in shark infested waters. The advice of not swimming where the seals are is no longer good advice considering we are swimming around in shark infested water. I have fished this water my entire life and what is going on is far from normal.

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Old 09-18-2018, 02:44 AM
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Here is where the shark sightings have been in the past month. . .




. . . . and the past week.


Probably going to have to have protective netting in designated swimming areas on the outer cape to really protect people. Closing the beach for an hour or so just ain't going to cut it.
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