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Old 09-14-2018, 10:44 AM
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The divers are recreational. Some are on charters, others private boats. Some have comm licenses, which is interesting because spearguns are not approved gear..

Tying off is not allowed, but that doesn't mean it isn't done.
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How big were they? I had a buddy who said they got a bunch, but they were 30 lb baby eye balls. At some point the body fish will be picked over.
When I heard this buoy I was told the bigeyes were big.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
The divers are recreational. Some are on charters, others private boats. Some have comm licenses, which is interesting because spearguns are not approved gear..

Tying off is not allowed, but that doesn't mean it isn't done.
The depth should be at least 10,000 ft down and it is literally in the middle of nowhere. What were the divers doing down there? Are there many fish surrounding the buoy rope?
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:24 AM
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If you want to jig 10lb-30lb bigeyes that's the spot to go. There are bigger fish but only the divers were getting them.
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:38 PM
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Its called the big eye breading ground.Myself and my buddies who spearfish this special spot do not anchor to it as the fish are easily drawn away with tasty treats. As far as the 85ft viking with 20 divers I have no idea LOL.

This year in particular has blown this spot wide open which this used to be somewhat of a secret spot. Some nights I've heard of 6 to 10 boats parked on it which is crazy. Earlier in the season you can jig bigger fish around 70-90lbs but it mostly is a 1 decent sized fish for every 8-10 little fish caught. Now with this spot being as popular as the "notch" a lot of those bigger fish are harvested and its primarily loaded with juvenile big eyes ranging from 10-30lbs as stated above.

Gerg - I'm not sure what you mean by "spearguns are not approved gear". Your in INT waters and spearguns are perfectly legal as long as you aren't harvesting illegal fish on the spear (Ie: Bluefin, mako etc..)
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Gerg - I'm not sure what you mean by "spearguns are not approved gear". Your in INT waters and spearguns are perfectly legal as long as you aren't harvesting illegal fish on the spear (Ie: Bluefin, mako etc..)
That was in reference to commercial fishing. You are really limnited to rod, reel, and handgear. There is a harpoon category, but thats only used for bluefin and swordfish.

If you have a general cat permit, you technically can't use a speargun, even for BAYS tuna. It doesn't matter you are in international waters. You are in the EEZ, and the USCG still has dominion over your hide.
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
That was in reference to commercial fishing. You are really limnited to rod, reel, and handgear. There is a harpoon category, but thats only used for bluefin.

If you have a general cat permit, you technically can't use a speargun, even for BAYS tuna. It doesn't matter you are in international waters. You are in the EEZ, and the USCG still has dominion over your hide.
Ahhh I gotcha yeah thats true for comm. Speargun wounds look just like harpoon wounds
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Originally Posted by SpearoFI View Post
Ahhh I gotcha yeah thats true for comm. Speargun wounds look just like harpoon wounds
You can still poon a fish in order to land it, as long as it was caught on a hook first.
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Old 09-14-2018, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SpearoFI View Post
Its called the big eye breading ground.Myself and my buddies who spearfish this special spot do not anchor to it as the fish are easily drawn away with tasty treats. As far as the 85ft viking with 20 divers I have no idea LOL.

This year in particular has blown this spot wide open which this used to be somewhat of a secret spot. Some nights I've heard of 6 to 10 boats parked on it which is crazy. Earlier in the season you can jig bigger fish around 70-90lbs but it mostly is a 1 decent sized fish for every 8-10 little fish caught. Now with this spot being as popular as the "notch" a lot of those bigger fish are harvested and its primarily loaded with juvenile big eyes ranging from 10-30lbs as stated above.

Gerg - I'm not sure what you mean by "spearguns are not approved gear". Your in INT waters and spearguns are perfectly legal as long as you aren't harvesting illegal fish on the spear (Ie: Bluefin, mako etc..)
I first heard it from a friend of a friend telling this spot. If that's your secret spot it was not my intention to further expose it. I just wanted some information about it and besides it is really far.

I will delete this post. I feel sorry about a secret spot got blown open.
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Old 09-14-2018, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KVKV View Post
I first heard it from a friend of a friend telling this spot. If that's your secret spot it was not my intention to further expose it. I just wanted some information about it and besides it is really far.

I will delete this post. I feel sorry about a secret spot got blown open.
Its alright dude its been around for years, the spot was blown wide open many weeks ago via social media. No harm at all in your post.

Its an all in spot, middle of no where and if the fish aren't there its an expensive unhappy trip home LOL.
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By far not a secret now. 5 years ago was epic now ok but overfished and divers

All or nothing run though.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:28 PM
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When the woods hole "weather" buoys originally went in, they were "secret" because they didn't appear on the electronic charts most boaters use. NOAA published their location in the Notice to Mariners, but you had to be looking for them to find them.

Some boats found them, and found a lot of quality fish under them. They managed to keep it more or less quiet until a party boat pulled 60 bigeye off one. Withing days pictures of beaming anglers holding freshly caught fish with a yellow buoy inscibed with the letters "OSSM" appeared. It wasn't a secret after that. Especially because that year, it was the only location reliably holding tuna.

Once that was out, so was "shangri-la". The tsunami buoy was just too far out in the middle of nowhere for most boats to gamble on.

This is another year with no reliable tuna bite, except for aq single buoy in the middle of nowhere.

And so, another secret spot is born and dies. If you look back, we were discussing it in June. It wasn't a secret, just too far out to bother with.
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gerg View Post
When the woods hole "weather" buoys originally went in, they were "secret" because they didn't appear on the electronic charts most boaters use. NOAA published their location in the Notice to Mariners, but you had to be looking for them to find them.

Some boats found them, and found a lot of quality fish under them. They managed to keep it more or less quiet until a party boat pulled 60 bigeye off one. Withing days pictures of beaming anglers holding freshly caught fish with a yellow buoy inscibed with the letters "OSSM" appeared. It wasn't a secret after that. Especially because that year, it was the only location reliably holding tuna.

Once that was out, so was "shangri-la". The tsunami buoy was just too far out in the middle of nowhere for most boats to gamble on.

This is another year with no reliable tuna bite, except for aq single buoy in the middle of nowhere.

And so, another secret spot is born and dies. If you look back, we were discussing it in June. It wasn't a secret, just too far out to bother with.
I agree its an all or nothing run. If the divers show up its a waste of time pretty much. I dont agree with being tIed up to fhe buoy.. That is bullshit. I would not exactly say tbere has been no tuna bite in the canyons. Inside the lanes is slower than other years but the canyons have had decent amounts of tuna and billfish.
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