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Old 07-18-2018, 06:35 PM
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Iíd love to catch a small tuna. Just doesnít seem to be any/many around right now. Caught a few small last year but thereís been a hell of a lot of giants around both last and this year so far. Donít want a giant nor want to even fight/target them but I have a awful amount spent on gear and boats to not go for a ride for them
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sammythetuna View Post


I understand it clearly, I just donít think itís realistic.

You just arenít going to get a lot of sympathy posting about why you should be allowed to keep giants so you can sell extra fish illegally to restaurants. You literally said you would sell 50# to a restaurant for $5 / pound so stop back tracking.

Commercial fishermen pay a ton of money to get boat and licenses in order to sell fish legally.
No back tracking here.
You're holier than thou! Nobody's ever done anything against the rules. No ones ever snow plowed for cash or cut a lawn for cash and I'm sure everyone's taxes are right to penny. It's the same thing as selling a hunk of fish without a license.

You "fill in the blank" justice warriors act like a guy who sells a piece of meat without a license is some kind of terrible person.You're all a bunch of hypocrites. Think of all the things you've done in your life and compare it to that. If you haven't done worst then I applaude you, for you really are a great human being and I deserve your criticism.

So my childhood friend ownes a local restaurant and he knows I takes care of the meat. I sell him the extra meat he gets a deal and I get gas money. What's the big deal. All the guys are doing it that have the connection it's just nobody admits it and the others are just jealous.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:27 PM
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28 posts and he is trashing recs by lying about how "they all do it". BS. I smell a comm trying to smear the rec's.

And before you go into attack mode, I had commercial permits until this year. I got rid of them because the little I made selling excess catch wasn't worth the hassles of staying in compliance. You have to get inspected like you are a friggin 80 foot steel can with a crew of 10. Monthly safety training by a certified instructor, boxed and certified compass, day signals for fishing you never do, mandatory trip reporting, and soon to be VMS requirements costing $3k just for the gear.

No thank you. But I'm not going to cheat and sell to a "connection". It's illegal. You are stealing from the people who do it the right way. And you sir, are either a poacher or an idiot trying to stir up muck; I suspect it's the latter.
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:15 PM
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28 posts and he is trashing recs by lying about how "they all do it". BS. I smell a comm trying to smear the rec's.

And before you go into attack mode, I had commercial permits until this year. I got rid of them because the little I made selling excess catch wasn't worth the hassles of staying in compliance. You have to get inspected like you are a friggin 80 foot steel can with a crew of 10. Monthly safety training by a certified instructor, boxed and certified compass, day signals for fishing you never do, mandatory trip reporting, and soon to be VMS requirements costing $3k just for the gear.

No thank you. But I'm not going to cheat and sell to a "connection". It's illegal. You are stealing from the people who do it the right way. And you sir, are either a poacher or an idiot trying to stir up muck; I suspect it's the latter.
Lol, you got me, just trolling. Never even caught a bluefin over 36"

I just didn't like the way the guy was getting trashed for asking if he could keep a giant. Btw everything I said I still stand by. If you have lived your life and can afford to throw stones you are an exempletory person above reproach.
I know for a fact everyone I know has done way more shady stuff than selling fish without a license for a couple of hundred $

The old ladies who get paid cash for knitting blankets. That's not fair to legit manufacturers.
The buddy of yours who is a half ass mechanic and fixed your truck for cash, I'm sure noone has ever done that. It's all the same. Ever wager on a sporting event? Have one of those cheater boxes or maybe a jailbreaked fire stick? Get real, you people gotta lighten up.
It's just commercial fisherman like their high horse because they get screwed by the regs etc.
I got news for ya, every business gets screwed. And there are scabs in every industry. Some of those same guys that are following all the rules with there commercial fishing are for sure snow plowing under the table screwing the guy that paying 10's of thousands for insurance and comp and so on.
It's the exact same thing. Get over yourselves.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:42 AM
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Maybe, but the difference is that nobody is lobbying to keep you from shoveling your own driveway, or repairing your own car, or knitting your own clothes. There are people who would use your story to lobby to keep rec's from keeping any market class fish.

Not just bft, but any market fish. We are actually very close to privatization of fisheries, and rec's won't get a share.. Lies about poaching push us closer. This isn't funny.
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:07 AM
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wut da fahk?
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by slowahead View Post
So my childhood friend owns a local restaurant and he knows I takes care of the meat. I sell him the extra meat he gets a deal and I get gas money. What's the big deal.
Whats the name of this restaurant? I'm getting hungry, and we may need sustenance for the legs this thread will have.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:58 AM
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no one in quincy or boston buys bluefin illegally...all that to toro on the sushi menus is sourced legally of course
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:42 AM
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honestly at commercial prices we saw last year I dont even see why you would buy it illegally nowadays. $4/pound to the boat it couldn't cost them too much.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:39 PM
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its too bad its such a pain in the ass to be able to legally sell fish you catch. Are you even allowed to donate it to a restaurant if you wanted to?
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by njk4o5 View Post
its too bad its such a pain in the ass to be able to legally sell fish you catch. Are you even allowed to donate it to a restaurant if you wanted to?
It is probably up to your state. I don't believe we can do that legally in MA unless we involve a distributor. A fisherman can only pass their catch off to a state licensed buyer/distributor/food handler who can legally sell it to retail cpoint of sale ustomers like restaraunts, markets, etc. So if a licensed fisherman donated the catch, it would still have to go through a distributor to the end point of sale. They would have to agree to do it for free. Free is not usually part of their business models.

There is no legal mechanism I'm aware of where a recreational fisherman can donate fish to a shelter for example, but that may exist under some good Samaritan bill. I'm just not aware of it.

That said, I'm sure many shelters or churches would accept it unofficially. But it wouldn't be kosher, so to speak.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:40 PM
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The op is a perfect example of why rec fisherman are always getting screwed. Wants to harvest fish but to lazy or to stupid to find and follow the regs himself. It's not that hard to find them.as one member pointed out. Same place you got your permit. If you even have one. If you can't or don't know how to find and follow the regulations yourself you don't deserve to fish for them. FWIW only a dumbass would openly admit on a public forum they sell fish illegally.
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Old 07-23-2018, 09:12 PM
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If you guys think restaurants arenít buying illegal fish then I have a bridge Iíd like to sell you...
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Old 07-24-2018, 03:22 AM
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The whole ridiculousness of the thread is he is too lazy to look up the law so he comes here asking for what the law is.....so he can follow it and then turn around and immediately do something illegal?

If you are going to so something illegal anyways i donít see the point.
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:44 AM
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The OP and the illegal guy are two different people, the OP asked a question and it was answered. The illegal guy made a bunch of stuff up based on how he thinks things would work IF he caught a giant, which he has never done, then doubled down when he was called out on it, only to admit he was full of it 30 posts later. Nothing wrong with the OP asking the original question, illegal guy def derailed his thread... but that's what you get with an online forum.
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:52 AM
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OK that is my bad - I confused the two. So one is too lazy to go off the website and the other I dont really know how to describe in a nice way
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sammythetuna View Post
The whole ridiculousness of the thread is he is too lazy to look up the law so he comes here asking for what the law is.....so he can follow it and then turn around and immediately do something illegal?

If you are going to so something illegal anyways i donít see the point.
False, actually did do the homework. the HMS site only has these regulations lists: 2 school bluefin and 1 large daily. However if you call the Gloucester HMS office (978) 281-9260 the Recreational Angling recording says 1 trophy (>73") per vessel annually north of Great Egg Inlet, NJ, hence the confusion. And I never said I would do anything illegal. Other people chimed in and said that.
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Originally Posted by Bgrabs1 View Post
False, actually did do the homework. the HMS site only has these regulations lists: 2 school bluefin and 1 large daily. However if you call the Gloucester HMS office (978) 281-9260 the Recreational Angling recording says 1 trophy (>73") per vessel annually north of Great Egg Inlet, NJ, hence the confusion. And I never said I would do anything illegal. Other people chimed in and said that.
Need to read a little closer then:

2018 Recreational Atlantic Bluefin Tuna Retention Limits

Effective April 26 through December 31, 2018, the BFT daily retention limits are the following. For HMS Angling-permitted vessels: 2 school BFT (27 to <47") + 1 large school/small medium BFT (47 to <73"); for HMS Charter/Headboat-permitted vessels: 3 school BFT + 1 large school/small medium BFT. These limits are effective for all areas except the Gulf of Mexico. Angling and Charter/Headboat vessels may also land 1 trophy BFT measuring 73" or greater per vessel per year north of 39į18íN (off Great Egg Inlet, NJ). The trophy bluefin fishery for the southern area is closed, The Gulf of Mexico area will close at 11:30 p.m. May 13. The recreational yellowfin tuna retention limit is 3/person/day or trip. The minimum size for yellowfin and bigeye tuna is 27" curved fork length. There are no recreational limits for bigeye, skipjack, or albacore tunas.
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Originally Posted by Bgrabs1 View Post
False, actually did do the homework. the HMS site only has these regulations lists: 2 school bluefin and 1 large daily. However if you call the Gloucester HMS office (978) 281-9260 the Recreational Angling recording says 1 trophy (>73") per vessel annually north of Great Egg Inlet, NJ, hence the confusion. And I never said I would do anything illegal. Other people chimed in and said that.
You unfortunately get an F for your homework grade. But you do get credit for going the distance to find another place to get the info yourself instead of cheating off someone else's work. Solid B- Grade..
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Old 07-24-2018, 01:51 PM
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Norther trophy season closing 7/26 at 11:30 pm.......
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