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Old 11-08-2018, 04:06 PM
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no luck for me, got a late start 8:30 am. Dogfish city. Didnít see too many others catching much. Was in 70 feet off the fist pencil. Had some nice marks in about 55-60 feet of water but no takers. Just some more dogs.

I got out at 12:30 and fished between the inlet and OB. Heard there was a morning bite and that it had died when the wind quit. I spent most of the time around the 3 mile line and I cant believe the size of the fleet that was way south of me in Fed waters.

One really small bass and a good size blue was it for me. I started heading in at 3 and marked a LOT of fish so guessing it may have broken open at some point after that. On the way in I heard a guy saying he had a lot of fish on top off of Tobay in 70 ft. Maybe its time to look West.
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:08 PM
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Not to sound like a jerkoff but if you guys are catching a lot of dog fish it probably means you are fishing ďlazyĒ. I saw it none stop today within the fleet. If you drop your jig to the bottom and just raise the rod you are going to catch dogfish. The old guy Bob that i fish with had some doggies today becuase he was being lazy. We had about 150 bass on the day and except for Bob no one else on the boat was catching dogfish. You need to drop to the bottom and reel 3/4 of the way up and do it again. You do it over and over. It takes a lot of energy but itís well worth the reward.
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:40 PM
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Not to sound like a jerkoff but if you guys are catching a lot of dog fish it probably means you are fishing ďlazyĒ. I saw it none stop today within the fleet. If you drop your jig to the bottom and just raise the rod you are going to catch dogfish. The old guy Bob that i fish with had some doggies today becuase he was being lazy. We had about 150 bass on the day and except for Bob no one else on the boat was catching dogfish. You need to drop to the bottom and reel 3/4 of the way up and do it again. You do it over and over. It takes a lot of energy but itís well worth the reward.
I caught a fair amount of dogfish today because I was being lazy and doing some deadsticking while trying to spark a topwater bite with another rod- 100%.

You have to turn the handle - an old MTK captain told me drop it down, crank it 10 times, drop it again. I just put a Shimano Tranx reeel on a bass rod for this because it has the push button - easy
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:53 PM
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I caught a fair amount of dogfish today because I was being lazy and doing some deadsticking while trying to spark a topwater bite with another rod- 100%.

You have to turn the handle - an old MTK captain told me drop it down, crank it 10 times, drop it again. I just put a Shimano Tranx reeel on a bass rod for this because it has the push button - easy

kevin, the other that shocks me are the boats that troll through 100 boats while everyone is jigging. Iím not bashing trolling I just donít like to do it especially if the can be caught on live baits, jigs or top water. I just find it to be very boring. I would rather catch 200 15lbs fish than catch one 50 pounder trolling.
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:09 PM
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We passed these guys this AM. They were loaded on the boat like sardines.

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Old 11-08-2018, 05:12 PM
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Insane.. I think its a joke that a Captain puts that many fares on his boat. One 15 pound bluefish or a decent size albie and an entire side of the boat needs to be re-rigged.
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:24 PM
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kevin, the other that shocks me are the boats that troll through 100 boats while everyone is jigging. Iím not bashing trolling I just donít like to do it especially if the can be caught on live baits, jigs or top water. I just find it to be very boring. I would rather catch 200 15lbs fish than catch one 50 pounder trolling.
Agreed. We had boats trolling in and out of the fleet today. One so close that I was secondhand smoking.
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:05 PM
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Here is my report from today.. I was fortunate enough to be further east than most when the fish were feeding. As soon as the wind died down so did the bite. I was pumped at how hard the NW winds were blowing at sunrise. We had about bunch of fish today. Nothing big, biggest fish was around 15 pounds. We had a few bluefish mixed in. We had a lot of bass once the birds moved on and the other boats followed.

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Old 11-08-2018, 07:12 PM
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Thanks for the jigging tip. Cannot wait to give it a shot.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gina View Post
Not to sound like a jerkoff but if you guys are catching a lot of dog fish it probably means you are fishing ďlazyĒ. I saw it none stop today within the fleet. If you drop your jig to the bottom and just raise the rod you are going to catch dogfish. The old guy Bob that i fish with had some doggies today becuase he was being lazy. We had about 150 bass on the day and except for Bob no one else on the boat was catching dogfish. You need to drop to the bottom and reel 3/4 of the way up and do it again. You do it over and over. It takes a lot of energy but itís well worth the reward.
Your right in a way. I too was fishing with more than one rod at the same time. (never works for me). I set up one rod for some new weighted sand eels that I just purchased so when ever I let my jigging rod sit unattended about 5 or 6 turns from the bottom, I was getting hit by dog fish. I missed the early run, wasn't getting any good marks so i was trying different things and didn't have the time to head east so I just stayed in one general area. The only marks I was getting was closer in towards the inlet, but at that point, I lost interest. Not only lazy but also head wasn't in the right frame of mind after being pissed I got out late and missed the run.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:12 PM
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Left today out of Moriches Inlet and worked our way west. Stopped and jigged along the way wherever we had decent marks and bird activity, no takers at all. Eventually made it down by the fleet between Ocean Beach and Davis by 9:30. Was a slow pick for us but we did manage one keeper and half a dozen shorts. One big blue and a few smaller ones.

Best reward was being able to get my 84 year old Dad out with my good friend Walter. Weatherman got it wrong, it actually was calmer than I think forecast with totally glassy conditions for the late morning.

Considering the number of boats fishing I noticed very few fish landed. I guess I missed the early bite also.

Partyboats were insanely packed. saw one boat from Freeport fishing between Ocean Beach and Davis where the fleet was.

Great day on the water for November.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:26 AM
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Party boats- at one point the Starstream from Freeport was on site, so was the Brooklyn IV from Brooklyn, and the Rosie from Moriches.
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Originally Posted by Avid 24 View Post
Party boats- at one point the Starstream from Freeport was on site, so was the Brooklyn IV from Brooklyn, and the Rosie from Moriches.
I was happy to see the Rosie. After seeing it I knew not to go any further east. They were around OB.
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:59 AM
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Got out after work for a very quick trip to the ocean. Didnt have a lot of time to work with so stayed local, headed south and got between the reef and mile marker, some birds around and marked some bait so set up shop there. Only managed one bass in the low 20lbs range. Didnít seem like anyone else was having much luck in the area, in fact as soon as I hooked up I had boats set up right on top of me. I know if I had the time to run west it would have been a different story. Still a great afternoon on the water, not to many of them left for this season. Got to switch my focus for a little and hit the woods for bow hunting season, for the first time in years my freezer is empty.
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Old 11-09-2018, 08:57 AM
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Rounded the double reds in FI inlet yesterday morning at 645am and on the grounds a few minutes later. It was an absolute slay-fest from 7am-10am. We did two long drifts with bass on every drop (favored the yellow tail jig). Also had around 2-dozen fish on top water but that died off once the boat traffic got to us. Once the wind died the fishing turned off.

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Old 11-09-2018, 12:52 PM
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kevin, the other that shocks me are the boats that troll through 100 boats while everyone is jigging. Iím not bashing trolling I just donít like to do it especially if the can be caught on live baits, jigs or top water. I just find it to be very boring. I would rather catch 200 15lbs fish than catch one 50 pounder trolling.
The flip side to this complaint are the idiots that see you're trolling and pull up 50 yards in front of you chasing the latest bird dive and then wonder why you can't turn on a dime to avoid them.

Sometimes trolling is a nice way to chill, and catch fewer but bigger fish.
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:27 PM
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When jigging dont stop turing the handle until the jig is just at the surface then drop it down again...i have had alot of bass take the jig right at the surface next to the boat its wild to watch.
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:33 PM
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If you are a trophy hunter, you will wait as long as neccessary for the big one.
Most of the time, larger bass travel in similar size scools and sometimes shadow the smaller fish, to pick up an easy meal. I have never been lucky enough to hook a fish over 45lb on a jig - but will keep trying.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lenbomb412 View Post
When jigging dont stop turing the handle until the jig is just at the surface then drop it down again...i have had alot of bass take the jig right at the surface next to the boat its wild to watch.
i found the same the last few weeks. In fact I donít even touch the bottom just to advoid the dogfish.
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:47 PM
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Hey out of curiosity, what size rod do you guys prefer for both snagging bunker and casting into top water bass action? I've been using an 8' rod to snag bunker (not so much this season) and then cast into top water action with my light tackle rods, 6'6" Light-Medium. Was looking at a 7' Med-Heavy rod today wth a 6000 series reel on it, thinking it might be an all around better rod for both, although I'd still probably use the light for a lot of top water stuff. Just wondering what everyone prefers for pulling bunker out and letting them swim, thinking the 8' is a bit too much rod for that.
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