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Hook of choice for live baiting bluefin

Old 10-02-2017, 05:34 PM
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Default Hook of choice for live baiting bluefin

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I'm just getting into live baiting for bluefin east of Chatham, MA up to Ptown. What hooks do you recommend to live bait mackerel? I'm looking at Trokar inline circles HD 8/0. Any preference in size and circle vs. J?

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Old 10-02-2017, 06:11 PM
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I've used 9/0,10/0 or 11/0 Live baits for years with good results.
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:21 PM
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Owner ringed super mutu circle for me. Very high hook up/landed ratio in my experience
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by andyp262 View Post
Owner ringed super mutu circle for me. Very high hook up/landed ratio in my experience
Thanks! What size do you typically fish with for large school size to small giant?
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:49 AM
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Would an Owner Octopus 8/0 work?

Do you hook the Mac through the lower jaw?
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:01 AM
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I prefer as small a hook as possible, usually a 9/0 or so. Hint: Use your google machines and look at bridling your baits.
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I don't believe that octopus style hook will be strong enough for the drag poundage necesary for ethical bft fishing.
I prefer as small a hook as possible, usually a 9/0 or so.
Hint: Use your google machines and look at bridling your baits.
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:58 PM
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Octopus means the eye is offset and that it's designed to be snelled. You want an inline eye. Thickest gauge you can get. Definitely a circle hook. J hooks are for trolling only. If you gut hook a tuna fish, you are totally screwed. You'll fight it for an hour and then want to cry when you feel the leader pop. Worst feeling in the world. Match the hook size to the bait. Big hook if you are fishing a big groundfish. Small hook if you are fishing a delicate herring. Medium size for mackerel.
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:59 AM
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Your hookup ratio will be much higher if you bridle the bait vs. hooking the bait.
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ThunnusBlue View Post
Octopus means the eye is offset and that it's designed to be snelled. You want an inline eye. Thickest gauge you can get. Definitely a circle hook. J hooks are for trolling only. If you gut hook a tuna fish, you are totally screwed. You'll fight it for an hour and then want to cry when you feel the leader pop. Worst feeling in the world. Match the hook size to the bait. Big hook if you are fishing a big groundfish. Small hook if you are fishing a delicate herring. Medium size for mackerel.
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smaller baits (macs, herring, whiting) we don't bridle. hook thru the top just behind the gills and not as deep as to hit the spine.
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:10 AM
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right.

smaller baits (macs, herring, whiting) we don't bridle. hook thru the top just behind the gills and not as deep as to hit the spine.
Nick - behind gills but in front of dorsal fin?

Will switch to circle hooks from Octopus/"J" hooks .

Thanks for the advice /help, all.
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Yes. So it can swim naturally. After you hook em and you drop it over it should swim strait down as fas as you can pull line. You want the hook thru them so its not going to come out but its not going to kill them or cripple them.
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Thanks. Didn’t get to try it yesterday. Got into a school of blues feeding on sand eels between the 5 & 6 bouys and Stoney Ledge in Wellfleet harbor and then tried for stripers on the Brewster flats (trying to stay out of the wind). Nothing happening there though a few small marks west of Sesuit.

Fun ride back to Wellfleet with 2-3 swells and the occasional 4 thrown in for fun!
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RJ17, Where you cruising by the Brewster flats around 4pm yesterday and is your hull black or dark blue? If so I saw you while casting off a jetty. There were bass in close to the beach hitting white pencils.
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yea. tons of school bass (20-26 w/ the occaisional keeper in the mix). we found them everywhere from RP to S of truro (bayside) in very tight - fri-sunday. maybe easier to get from shore once the onshore wind/drift and wind/waves kicked up. lots of topwater fun on light tackle - same - light/silver pencil poppers did the trick.
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Default Thanks for the advice folks...

....we ran out on Saturday and went 0/2 using Gammy Live bait HDs. first fish chafed us off after a few minutes. Second fish was a giant which eventually broke at the crimp after an 1.5 hour fight which we couldn't have kept anyhow. Had the lead in hand prior to the break off.
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Originally Posted by bluefinblues View Post
RJ17, Where you cruising by the Brewster flats around 4pm yesterday and is your hull black or dark blue? If so I saw you while casting off a jetty. There were bass in close to the beach hitting white pencils.
Indeed that was me! That area from the Sesuit breakwater to the next beach West from where you were frustrated me no end. This summer I would troll over piles of fish, including what looked like some slobs with no luck. Yesterday I was trolling a top water and an8-15 foot deep lure and got nothing. All the fish I marked looked smaller though. Were you hooking up with keepers or schoolies?
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#8 Super Mutu - no ring.
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Originally Posted by Sittin' Low View Post
#8 Super Mutu - no ring.
(this)

the rings are junk
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the rings are junk
Curious why you say that? I've used both ringed and no ring.. .never had one break off though
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