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Old 08-31-2017, 12:04 PM
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Why is it that so few people kite fish in the Northeast canyons. It seems like it would be super effective. It's basically like green sticking with live bait. It seems like we all do the same thing... Wave at each other as we pass dragging a mixed spread of chains, bars, and ballyhoo from June to August and then switch over to chunking. It's like this formula that we're locked into. I feel like I'm in a rut. I'm going to make it a point to learn kite fishing and try live lining bunker, bluefish, etc. I'll report back!
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Old 08-31-2017, 12:45 PM
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I think because the fish are waaaaaaaaaaay more spread out up here. In Florida you basically head out to the reef and put up the kite and wait for fish to swim by. Up here we troll for hours covering many miles looking for the fish. If you found a school and then put up the kite I would think you couldn't keep a bait in the water.
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Old 08-31-2017, 12:50 PM
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Good point...I'm going to learn the technique and be ready for when the yellows settle in again like 2 years ago...
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Old 08-31-2017, 01:08 PM
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I do not know how a skippy would hold up being set that way, but does not sound like a bad idea while fishing for Tile or Swords on the drift, sure is fun watching the fish hit the Kite bait, I love the kite bite.
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Old 08-31-2017, 01:13 PM
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Right? Why not fly one out there if you're drifting anyway?
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:08 PM
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I put a small mahi on a kite last summer for a shark by the gully. Had a nice white Marlin come up and take it for a second. Never got a hook in it but the wire was like a cork screw after. We were fighting a blue shark and heard the kite bait start going. When I looked over there was a Marlin tail walking with the mahi on the side of his face.
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:10 PM
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I actually just bought a yummy flyer setup that im waiting to try out... i know they troll them off the kite... cant wait to figure this one out haha
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:20 PM
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I think it would be effective for bluefin schools on the surface or bigeye bites that tend to focus on a small notch of a canyon.

Down south the kites are used for yellowfin that are busting out of the water on flying fish and wont hit anything else.
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Old 09-01-2017, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Paezano View Post
I actually just bought a yummy flyer setup that im waiting to try out... i know they troll them off the kite... cant wait to figure this one out haha
The long range boats out of san diego and all the boats fishing mexico out of PV all use kites or ballons with yummy flyers, squid, and traditional baits. They are the go to set up many times!! Some pretty cool stuff the guys do on the left coast, that we never do out here. Ive learned a few tricks from them, and employed the techniques here, and they definitely are effective !
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Old 09-01-2017, 04:51 AM
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Ive thought about kites alot.
Fished them a few times on charters in SoFl. They are fun!
Agreed with the above statements that in SoFl they set up on a contour line/reef and use the gulf stream to pull them parallel. Works really well, but they have a defined structure.

I dont know about up here, unless you get on a school of fish that wont eat the troll or cast.

The west coat long rangers are mostly focused on structure too, right?

Not as much structure for us up in the NE offshore....
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Old 09-01-2017, 05:46 AM
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Ya im not sure how well trolling a yummy flyer off a kite will work up here but im gonna try it. Just another lure in the spread.
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Originally Posted by Paezano View Post
Ya im not sure how well trolling a yummy flyer off a kite will work up here but im gonna try it. Just another lure in the spread.
If you're going to troll a kite/flyer its not just another lure in the spread. I am no expert but from my understanding you have to troll a bit slower than you would with a normal spread and that you are constantly managing the kite and lure/bait for wind and waves thus limiting the number of lines you can run. Like with greensticking you want the baits out of the water much of the time and just skimming the water intermittently. I'm sure it would work though. I bet drifting livebaits from a kite midday in those sweet spots in the canyons would get you bit for sure as well. I also think slow trolling bridle rigged skipjacks and jacks like they do in mexico would work gangbusters as well.
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Old 09-01-2017, 07:02 AM
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We use kites all the time for giant fishing up here- it's deadly. I'm sure it would kick ass in the canyons.
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Old 09-01-2017, 08:12 AM
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I'm going to try it when I'm chunking or jigging, not trolling.
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:42 AM
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Hardest part I think for us is the lack of bait.
Our bait is very inconsistent compared to S FL.

We cant just pull up to a channel marker and drop sabikis and expect to fill the well.
Or put a chum block out for 10min and blind throw the cast net.

Think about how many different types of bait they have when compared.

-snappers, porgies, bunker, macks & herring (if youre up north)

-herring, pilchards, cigars, sardines, mullet, pinfish, gogs, speedos- thats double what we have and Ill bet a FL native can double that list.
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Old 09-05-2017, 03:00 AM
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I went on a tuna charter out of New Jersey and the captain decided to chunk inshore. He had a kite out with two lines off of the kite. One with a whole squid and another with a live spot or croaker. The kite didn't catch anything that day but niether did any of the traditional methods. The captain said some days the kite will produce when nothing else will.
Either way it was 2 more lines in the water that would have not been able be out that day due to the sea's and lack of current that.
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