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Old 03-20-2013, 09:28 AM   #1
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Exclamation Meeting: Beverly Fishing Pier Accessibility

It just came to my attention that there will be a meeting tonight re: recreational accessibility for fishing at the Beverly (MA) Fishing Pier.

Last year, the North Shore saw an incredible run of squid from May-Sept. In years past, only a handful of people fished for them in Beverly due to scarce amounts. Last summer brought better #'s - and more fisherman. One nigh, the Beverly Police & Harbormaster Dept. threw out 94 people (I saw it). They did so due to the mess that squidfishing makes.

I get it...It's a mess! I also get the idea that some of the boaters on slips abbuting the pier end up w/ dirty boats and in some case damages...it's not right; it's disrespectful, ignorant, and inexcusable.

But on the same note - so is banning fishing from a structure that was paid for by fishermen!

Tonight, March 20th @ 7:00PM there will be a meeting at Beverly Public Library (Beverly, MA) to address this topic. If you have never fished from this pier - and never intend to - I would still urge you to attend if you care about recreational resources in your area. If the City of Beverly is alllowed to do this - and comes out victorious - your community could be next.

Thank you for your anticipated support!
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:35 AM   #2
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In Chatham, they nearly had a gang war.
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Wish i hade more notice Ryan i would be there... good luck.. Give um a few WTF's for me..
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:04 AM   #4
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Will do John, thanks. I just found out today myself. I'm trying to learn a little more about the actual funding of the construction of this pier. If anyone reads this and has any insight, please share...details are scarce online. I'm curious to find what grants/resources were tapped into in building it...will be helpful to know before the mtg. Thanks.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:19 AM   #5
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I have a dingy that I keep in water on the boat pier there. I have no problem with people fishing from the fishing pier, the problem is that they line the boat pier also, making it very difficult to dock your boat there. Some have also sat and fished off of our tenders left there. leaving fish guts and squid ink all over the place. If everyone respected the resources there would not be a problem but there is.
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We had the same problem at the Commercial dock in Marblehead last year. As a commercial dock it can get messy but add the squid fishermen there and is was deplorable. Never mind that ITS A WORKING DOCK! I'd have to yell at them to pull their lines in when approaching the dock. Some of them complied but others, it was as if they didn't speak english.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:49 AM   #7
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Not only do they line the public boat pier but the have also been getting into the private marinas (ie---climbing over the gated enterence and letting other fishermen in). Been in the marina next door for over 10 years and last year was the first we had problems (rods stolen, bait take from coolers, cutting tables used and left a mess, etc...) Some of the boats in the marina right next to the pier also had sinkers bounced off them several times that caused damaged. Sorry but if they can't police themselves the police will do it for them.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:53 AM   #8
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Shiprec/Capt Dave -
I couldn't agree w/ you guys more! Sadly, oftentimes, fishermen are their own worst enemies!!
Damaging boats, littering, and trespassing...un-called for. The PD/Harbormaster's should arrest/cite incident to incident. Much agreed.
Fishing in Marblehead, if it's purpose is for commercial only...or if it's private...get 'em all the hell out of there!

What's right is right though; my gripe is that if fishery derived $$$ is used to build a public pier for fishing - it needs to be open to the public. End of story.

All the derelicts and ignorant p&%[email protected] that cause problems - lock 'em up - but don't punish all.
For the handful of times I fish down there, personally, it's not going to change my season one bit.
But regardless, whether a shorebound or boatbound fisherman, any attack on limiting what you can do/where you can do it/or how you can do it, should be fought. It's only a matter of time before all of us end up w/ nothing...hell, we're almost there now.
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Shiprec - (PS) - a major contributor to the issues in Marblehead last year were surely due in part to the closing of Beverly. Just a hunch.
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Just curious do people eat the squid or use them as bait?
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Irish Jig 78 I agree that all public access to the ocean is important and should be preserved, in fact there is not enough of it. Better patrolling of this area and strictly inforcing the rules would probably solve a lot of the problems that we are having down there. Respect each others rights and enjoy the ocean. Easier said than done sometimes though. It only takes a few to spoil it for all.
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Just curious do people eat the squid or use them as bait?
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But on the same note - so is banning fishing from a structure that was paid for by fishermen!

Irish, I hear what you are saying and completely understand and agree. I should have addressed that first before ranting about our situation locally. I feel the same way about the dock in Marblehead. Seeing a grand father there with his grand kids fishing on occasion making lasting memories I have no problem with. Unfortunately the flip side is what happened last year. When the dock is completely packed to the point where people are fishing off the gangway was just ridiculous.
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Meeting Update:
The final ruling is this;
Fishing will now be open from both the old fishing pier and the new concrete platform that was just constructed.
-The old pier has complete accessibility.
-The new concrete platform will be open to fishing; there is a boundary restriction in place, however, the area that is closed to fishing is not an area fishermen could fish anyhow...there are boats/docks directly below.
-It was also designated that there will be no fishing on the docks.

It was furrther agreed by the Harbor Commission that there are only a handful of people that are causing the problems that have led to these complaints and a majority of the people are responsible. As a result, there is now an ordinance in place that will allow law enforcement to enforce certain laws. Additionally, there will be a bigger emphasis on educating people as to what's expected; through signage and community policing.

Overall, after last nights meeting, recreational fishermen are now better off than they were last year. Last year was a virtual complete closure. Thank you to those who attended and spoke up for the recreational fishermen; Steve from Al's Bait & Tackle, the 15 year old who spoke up in support of fishing (great job!), Capt. Maricano (F/V Hard Merchandise), and Ross Kessler (MA DMF).
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In Chatham, they nearly had a gang war.
P-town was like the wild west, guys trucking 55 gal drums of squid away, Gay activists thrown off the pier, fights, brawls. I squidded Chatham with some Asians, got along with them better than I did the Locals.... and we crushed em!
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There will also be a new boardwalk that goes under the bridge and extends over to the abandoned chemical plant. It sounded like this could be open to fishing also, along with the stub of the old bridge on the Salem side.

Good things happening down there, it's about time. I just hope the docks are in before the season starts or I'll have to swim out to my mooring.
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Sounds like P'Town is the place to be...

Irishjig, nice work last night. I was trying to figure out who you were because I know pretty much everyone that fishes around here that much. You spoke very well and in the short time did some great research as well. I was there to support my friend from the bait shop, but didn't feel the need to say anything. I would have introduced myself, but that was already more time than I have spent in a library the rest of my life combined, and I didn't need to sit through that. As it turns out, I did know who you were in a round about way. Nice job.
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There will also be a new boardwalk that goes under the bridge and extends over to the abandoned chemical plant. It sounded like this could be open to fishing also, along with the stub of the old bridge on the Salem side.
Nova: Thank you for bringing this up - totally slipped my mind. Yes, there is a small area that is no longer accessible to fishing, but in light of new projects that have been funded and already have start dates...it sounds as though things are moving in the right direction. Looks as though there will be some new designated fishing venues in the harborr soon! Looking forward to it.
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Thanks Junior, I think it was a great showing of support for the cause. Getting 12-15 people together to come out for a meeting in March is pretty good. Even though alot of people didn't speak - it's the show of numbers that surely helped them in making their decision to open areas back up; could have been very different without the response we had.

I grew up in the Nbpt area and moved down here 6 or 7 years ago, so my time down in Beverly hasn't been "life-long". I mostly fish alone; Inshore & Offshore and then Comm Bass season. The only person I really fish w/ down here is one of the commerical lobstermen...I pretty much just do my own thing.

Look forward to meeting you out on the water -season's almost here.
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NIce job Capt Ryan and anyone else that attended. Thanks for keeping us who could not make it up to speed..
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