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Old 03-19-2013, 10:51 AM   #1
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Default Cod Fishing Within 10 Miles of Salisbury Beach

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I'm new to THT. Looking to gather some more information of fishing for Cod with in 10 miles from Salisbury Beach. 17 foot boat. Fished the mouth of the Merrimack a lot for stripers and fished for the flounder in the area. I know there are some structures closer than Jeffrey's Ledge and wanted to see if anybody can help me out.

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Old 03-19-2013, 11:10 AM   #2
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stick to stripers, the cod are gone
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Prior to the Whaleback Closure, you had great fishing about 5-7 miles offshore in May-June. Considering boat size, I'd look at the "129", "143", Speckled Apron, and some of the small humps around Hamp. Shoal Ledge; the earlier noted spots, I'm pulled fish to 60# out of in the months of May/June in years past. Surely there's a few cod up off the Shoals too. Used to be a few fish around Breaking Rocks; not many of much size - but w/ the 19" limit you may pick a few. Chart out the Whaleback closure and then poke around the southern edges come the end of May early June...you might be surprised. Find the bait balled up on the bottom and you shoudl find some nice cod. Good luck!
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Prior to the Whaleback Closure, you had great fishing about 5-7 miles offshore in May-June. Considering boat size, I'd look at the "129", "143", Speckled Apron, and some of the small humps around Hamp. Shoal Ledge; the earlier noted spots, I'm pulled fish to 60# out of in the months of May/June in years past. Surely there's a few cod up off the Shoals too. Used to be a few fish around Breaking Rocks; not many of much size - but w/ the 19" limit you may pick a few. Chart out the Whaleback closure and then poke around the southern edges come the end of May early June...you might be surprised. Find the bait balled up on the bottom and you shoudl find some nice cod. Good luck!
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Thanks John - one of these days we'll get together to fish.
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Nice, red rock cod just outside shoals....look for "cracks" in the bottom as opposed to humps.
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Thanks John - one of these days we'll get together to fish.
My wife made me promise to fish for fun a little more this year.. Name the day i am there Capt..

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That is about as good of advice as you are going to get..
This guy knows his stuff!
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:25 AM   #9
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Thanks for the great advice! Will check those out and see what I find. If not then there is always the great Striper fishing and flounder fishing. I also do a lot of shark fishing down out of buzzards bay and snug harbor, so I will always have that.
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:42 PM   #10
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like irish jig said....year before last there was a flat inside of the whale back closure around memorial weekend that was one after another 20-25lb fish.....last year you couldnt find a cod there. altho last year i did have good luck on hampton shoals just north east of breaking rocks for small cod up to 27" till mid july ( it was actually a spot we were chaseing around macs and stumbled upon the cod below)
as others said look for cracks and humps. i havent had much luck with cod on speckled apron but straight out of the merrimac mouth 13 miles out is a large hump that is sometime good.
all that being said last year the draggers wrecked the ground fishing, they let em drag all winter long and by the time time us lil guys got out there it was slim pickings. last year i dont think we broke 15lbs on a cod ....it was a bad year. hopefully the cut backs will help
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Ryan & John gave some great advice. All I can add is to scout out the boundrys of the closed area off Hampton in May. Last year a fellow captain found them big time for a few days until the draggers found him . Part of the fun is the hunt so go get em. Good luck
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Ya that's great advice. Poke around the closed area in May / June and kill more breeders. Just because you are out of the closed area dose not make it OK for anyone to kill that class of fish. Rec or Commercial !! Exactly why the cod fishery is in the state it is. It is what it is I guess.
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And.......boom......thread shot to hell. NEXT!
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Ya that's great advice. Poke around the closed area in May / June and kill more breeders. Just because you are out of the closed area dose not make it OK for anyone to kill that class of fish. Rec or Commercial !! Exactly why the cod fishery is in the state it is. It is what it is I guess.
"Exactly why the cod fishery is in the state it is..." Hardly the case.
Killing any breeder fish obviously reduces the numbers...no brainer.
The bigger picture is what ultimately effects the stock.

What's the bigger picture...
-over-abundance of dogfish?
-lack of baitfish drawing the cod inshore?
-piss poor fishery management?
-Closing inshore spawning grounds just to let commercial vessels drag right through it after the spawn?
-Have you looked at the NY offshore codfishing - been on fire this past year, they never had anything of a fishery.
-Ever stop to think that maybe there's not a big enough mass of bait to draw the fish up inside from off of George's?
-How was the sandeel population up on Stellwagen this past year...? Pretty nil.

All do respect, get off your soap-box and do some more research and put some thought into why things are the way they are before simply hanging your hat on the fishermen. The problems run alot deeper.
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Ya that's great advice. Poke around the closed area in May / June and kill more breeders. Just because you are out of the closed area dose not make it OK for anyone to kill that class of fish. Rec or Commercial !! Exactly why the cod fishery is in the state it is. It is what it is I guess.
Yeah fishing OUTSIDE a closed area, what a fuggin crime.
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"Exactly why the cod fishery is in the state it is..." Hardly the case.
Killing any breeder fish obviously reduces the numbers...no brainer.
The bigger picture is what ultimately effects the stock.

What's the bigger picture...
-over-abundance of dogfish?
-lack of baitfish drawing the cod inshore?
-piss poor fishery management?
-Closing inshore spawning grounds just to let commercial vessels drag right through it after the spawn?
-Have you looked at the NY offshore codfishing - been on fire this past year, they never had anything of a fishery.
-Ever stop to think that maybe there's not a big enough mass of bait to draw the fish up inside from off of George's?
-How was the sandeel population up on Stellwagen this past year...? Pretty nil.

All do respect, get off your soap-box and do some more research and put some thought into why things are the way they are before simply hanging your hat on the fishermen. The problems run alot deeper.
-piss poor fishery management?

I think this is the overriding cause: It all boils down to the NEFMC not protecting the fisheries until they are forced to. The unintended consequences of catch shares did not help, that is still mismanagement. Too many dogs ... the list goes on. These guys at the top are never held responsible for their actions. If anyone in the private sector performed at this level, they would be out of a job. These analysts all have six figure incomes just to start. All are well educated and capable, not sure where the disconnect occurs. It appears that they are forced to make recommendations that satisfy their superiors, despite what the science says. It reminds me of when a high school math teacher, I knew, complained to me about grading. He would turn in the grades, the administration would change them to keep the parents happy and the kids would get promoted. Just to maintain his integrity, he would always keep a copy of the real grades. Eventually, this kind of behavior has consequences. Kids are under-educated, can't compete, fisheries collapse ....
Just my 2 cents
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Ya that's great advice. Poke around the closed area in May / June and kill more breeders. Just because you are out of the closed area dose not make it OK for anyone to kill that class of fish. Rec or Commercial !! Exactly why the cod fishery is in the state it is. It is what it is I guess.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a FISHING thread and the rock-throwers would stay away! I was very interested in this and not because I'm a "Rapist of fthe Sea"!! Just a guy who gets tired of just targeting stripers and wouldn't mind taking a couple of cod every season!

You want to do something, write your congressman and tell them to stand up to the Menhaden draggers & their F'ing lobby! Stop bashing on THT!!!

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"Exactly why the cod fishery is in the state it is..." Hardly the case.
Killing any breeder fish obviously reduces the numbers...no brainer.
The bigger picture is what ultimately effects the stock.

What's the bigger picture...
-over-abundance of dogfish?
-lack of baitfish drawing the cod inshore?
-piss poor fishery management?
-Closing inshore spawning grounds just to let commercial vessels drag right through it after the spawn?
-Have you looked at the NY offshore codfishing - been on fire this past year, they never had anything of a fishery.
-Ever stop to think that maybe there's not a big enough mass of bait to draw the fish up inside from off of George's?
-How was the sandeel population up on Stellwagen this past year...? Pretty nil.

All do respect, get off your soap-box and do some more research and put some thought into why things are the way they are before simply hanging your hat on the fishermen. The problems run alot deeper.
Again, about as good of advise as someone can give.. good advice Ryan..
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"Exactly why the cod fishery is in the state it is..." Hardly the case.
Killing any breeder fish obviously reduces the numbers...no brainer.
The bigger picture is what ultimately effects the stock.

What's the bigger picture...
-over-abundance of dogfish?
-lack of baitfish drawing the cod inshore?
-piss poor fishery management?
-Closing inshore spawning grounds just to let commercial vessels drag right through it after the spawn?
-Have you looked at the NY offshore codfishing - been on fire this past year, they never had anything of a fishery.
-Ever stop to think that maybe there's not a big enough mass of bait to draw the fish up inside from off of George's?
-How was the sandeel population up on Stellwagen this past year...? Pretty nil.

All do respect, get off your soap-box and do some more research and put some thought into why things are the way they are before simply hanging your hat on the fishermen. The problems run alot deeper.
Get off my soap box --- Ya right, I am sitting on my box on the sidelines now. No more meetings and agrivation for me. Like I said it is what it is.

Yes you are 100% correct in every one of your concerns. Hopefully everyone realizes all those issues.

Here is the quote from your second line "Killing any breeder fish obviously reduces the numbers...no brainer". So here is the big question and the one I brought up. Why in the world would you tell anyone to go fish in there for that class of fish?

I will wait on my soap box for your answer..... Oh and by the way,I am a fisherman
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Are we getting close? I need to get off my azz and get the boat ready...
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