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Old 03-14-2013, 10:05 AM   #1
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Default Anyone have news on the new "Southway" Break?

It must have changed with last weeks storm. Anyone been up in the air? This is what it looked like after the Blizzard.

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Last I heard was there was 4 feet of water at low, but that was before last weekend. Hopefully it's a viable passage come summer!
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I hope so... It won't help me because I'm in Ryders but I'd love to see the Bass return to the flats. Also love to see the bass settle in 40' south of the Bar like they used to ten years ago.
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I hope so... It won't help me because I'm in Ryders but I'd love to see the Bass return to the flats. Also love to see the bass settle in 40' south of the Bar like they used to ten years ago.
I'm on 4 wheels, but I usually run out of Ryders. If it's passable, I'm hoping it relieves some of the pressure there.

For the fish to return to older patterns, I think we need more fish!
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If you remember the old cut. This one is much wider so my guess would be that we will see some deeper water in ther middle. With this being opened back up, the water should be cooler in the bathtub so the bass may hang in there like they once did. This spring should be wicked in there for stripers.

I suspect the seals and the whites will also haunt this area a bit more too.
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I'm on 4 wheels, but I usually run out of Ryders. If it's passable, I'm hoping it relieves some of the pressure there.

For the fish to return to older patterns, I think we need more fish!
There are a lot of bass all summer long just off the beach stacked up thick from 50 to 80 feet of water. I think inside there will really turn on with the old cut opening back up.
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There are a lot of bass all summer long just off the beach stacked up thick from 50 to 80 feet of water. I think inside there will really turn on with the old cut opening back up.

I agree. It will probably have the same effect on tides that the second opening in Chatham had. More tidal swing. the shallows will get more shallow on low tide. Because the Atlantic side is earlier than the sound the tide is really going to dump out of there. The result will be a new outer bar and it could look like the "new cut" in a year or two.
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I hope so... It won't help me because I'm in Ryders but I'd love to see the Bass return to the flats. Also love to see the bass settle in 40' south of the Bar like they used to ten years ago.
Re:bass on the flats in good numbers, me too, but I wouldn't count on it. The seals will have a field day in there...

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I agree. It will probably have the same effect on tides that the second opening in Chatham had. More tidal swing. the shallows will get more shallow on low tide. Because the Atlantic side is earlier than the sound the tide is really going to dump out of there. The result will be a new outer bar and it could look like the "new cut" in a year or two.
The best part about the new cut is the bait now will flow that area and bring the fish in . The fishing dropped way off after the old cut closed compaired to what it was when I was a kid. it will be full of squid.
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There are a lot of bass all summer long just off the beach stacked up thick from 50 to 80 feet of water. I think inside there will really turn on with the old cut opening back up.
I hope so, but I think you and I have different definitions of "a lot".
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They have a Facebook page going. Check it out. Thy have photos and videos up on a weekly basis
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They have a Facebook page going. Check it out. Thy have photos and videos up on a weekly basis
Who is they? I have heard it's near 6' deep at low tide. I don't know if this is true. The people coming out of Chatham must be very excited!
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Couple of locals put it up.

https://www.facebook.com/ChathamSouthway?ref=ts&fref=ts
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Can't wait to get out there with the fly rod again... I've been watching this all along, and it looks like this break is in the area of the old H and I markers. Can anyone confirm that?
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I hope so, but I think you and I have different definitions of "a lot".
Are you saying there were not a lot of bass around this past summer ? They were stacked along nauset all summer. If your stuck on land that cut is going create insane fly fishing inside the bath tub.
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I have heard 12' at high before last storm.
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Are you saying there were not a lot of bass around this past summer ? They were stacked along nauset all summer. If your stuck on land that cut is going create insane fly fishing inside the bath tub.

They used to be south of the bar near where the new southway is though. When the Southway closed up we had a few years where the Bass were not too thick anywhere to the east except way offshore. My hope is that now they will back in the old areas again. The Mackeral used to be thick as can be right out there. They moved north a few miles after the changes too.
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Are you saying there were not a lot of bass around this past summer ? They were stacked along nauset all summer. If your stuck on land that cut is going create insane fly fishing inside the bath tub.
As compared to previous years, both near and far term, yeah, that's what I'm saying. The fish, while there, are not nearly as plentiful as they have been in the past. Last year I figured it was due to the unseasonably warm winter which drove the water temps higher early on and into the summer, but we'll see as this winter has been colder.
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What are the chances that a navigable path to Stage Harbor will be remade?
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