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Old 02-20-2013, 11:38 AM   #1
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The biggest problem with smaller boats is matching the size of the spread of larger boats. What are some of you small boat guys doing to run a larger spread? Last summer I was able to get 9 rods going. I added three by screwing release clips into painters poles and putting them in the T-Top rocket launcher. Two 6 foot poles in the end rod holders and a 10 foot pole in the middle. I ran two on each outrigger, two flat lines clipped down in tight, then two from each end of the leaning post rocket launcher up to the 6 foot poles and run those between the long and short riggers, then another in the center of the leaning post up to the 10 foot pole way way back. Has anyone else tried this? It worked pretty well and I can count on one hand the amount of tangles we had all season.

The outer T-Top rod holders are angled out just a touch so with the length of the painters poles those two lines run about a foot inside of the corner rod holders.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:36 PM   #2
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:59 PM   #3
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Sounds a little redneck to me....just run 6 lines, I bet you won't notice much of a hookup difference.
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Were you canyon fishing or inshore? Canyon seems to be where bigger spreads make the most difference. Primarily because when you get that shot at a group of YFT you want to maximize your bites and more baits in the water = more fish on the hook.

BFT I've never run much more than 5. Sometimes 7 if there are a lot of small fish around, but usually that gets cut back to 5 if the bite is good.

I run a 23 Regulator and use a extendable painter's pole with a notch cut in the bottom to lock it into my t-top rocket launcher, then a single release clip on a halyard to my leaning post for my WWB.

I don't do much canyon fishing on my boat, but our usual BFT spread is long riggers ballyhoo on shutes or the like, short riggers splash bars, flat lines daisy chains or cedar plugs, shotgun WWB heavy head shute/bally combo.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:33 AM   #5
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25 foot blackfin trolling/targetting smaller fish. Usually (conditions pending) running something along these lines. Swivel rod holders enable for some adjustments especially when turning. Don't usually run this many during the weekends either because of the crowds. Center line is switched up to be just off white wash with an appropriate lure/bait and when in the longer line position usually an bar with squids (black with white stinger) or flock of birds with green machine. Outriggers lines usually running bars. Rod riggers running something with not alot of drag, sometimes not even with hooks in presentation just attracters. Again only running this much when it's more than two of us on the right days (wind/wave height) and the crowds aren't present.

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I wouldnt want to clear all those lines on a small boat with a fish on . We normally pull 7 lines. 2 off each rigger long and short, 2 flat lines and one spreader bar down the center.
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If you are fishing 9 rods and 4 of them are weeded up then you are fishing 5 anyway.....I tend to focus on presentation more than how many lures are in the water
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If you are fishing 9 rods and 4 of them are weeded up then you are fishing 5 anyway.....I tend to focus on presentation more than how many lures are in the water
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Quality of presintation not quantity. It is not about the amount of bait in the water it is about presenting what is in the water properly..

5 baits perfectly presented in a small boat will out fish a clusterfudge of baits shoved out in less then perfect position for the sake of getting more bait in the water on the same small boat.

I regularly fish a 35' DE and a few 38' sporties, and i like a 9 rod spread max on both boats.. This is both manageable with a standard 5 man crew and still allows Hard port or starbord turns when needed.

I also fish a 50' custom express but that is a totaly different animal. With a minimum 7 man crew, 11 to 13 baits is no problem.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:36 AM   #9
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The 9 rod spread is for days when we can make it to the canyon and if the inshore bite is really hot. When it's a pick of fish I go down to 7 but I have noticed especially when looking for yellowfins the 9 rods makes a difference. And getting weeded up has never been too much of a problem inshore since there aren't as many weed lines or mats.
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9 seems like it would be a major PIA (turning, clearing lines, weeds etc.) to me on a small boat. I used to fish 6 lines, easier to keep them clean and swimming perfect to me.
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I fish 6-7 tops. On a sport fisherman. Precision my friend.
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Maybe instead of all of those lines, run Dredges off the stern cleats....that will more than compensate for the extra rods.
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Maybe instead of all of those lines, run Dredges off the stern cleats....that will more than compensate for the extra rods.
Yup. A a black cedar plug behind i on the flat line. Gets them all the time.
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25 foot blackfin trolling/targetting smaller fish. Usually (conditions pending) running something along these lines. Swivel rod holders enable for some adjustments especially when turning. Don't usually run this many during the weekends either because of the crowds. Center line is switched up to be just off white wash with an appropriate lure/bait and when in the longer line position usually an bar with squids (black with white stinger) or flock of birds with green machine. Outriggers lines usually running bars. Rod riggers running something with not alot of drag, sometimes not even with hooks in presentation just attracters. Again only running this much when it's more than two of us on the right days (wind/wave height) and the crowds aren't present.

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Do you troll for tuna with rod riggers? I use them for stripers but haven't tried them for tuna, just worries me a bit.
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Do you troll for tuna with rod riggers? I use them for stripers but haven't tried them for tuna, just worries me a bit.
Yeah no problems to report, but have to admit if my memory serves me correctly we have only hooked up once on those two lines. Usually it's one of the rigger or middle lines that we hook up on. Again we don't fish this way all the time only when conditions are right. Make sure the drag is set properly and the riggers aren't the cheap thin metal ones.
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We fish 11 or 12 rods on our 32: 3 on each outrigger, one or two on the center-rigger and 5 flatlines. I have seen the guys on the 55'+ boat do 15 rods.
Trolling for YFT's, the more you can put out there the better
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Maybe instead of all of those lines, run Dredges off the stern cleats....that will more than compensate for the extra rods.
I've tried this with a friends dredge but straight off the cleat doesn't put it in both clean and visible water. It's either up too high right in the bubbles, or down below in clean water where its tough to see underneath the wash.

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We fish 11 or 12 rods on our 32: 3 on each outrigger, one or two on the center-rigger and 5 flatlines. I have seen the guys on the 55'+ boat do 15 rods.
Trolling for YFT's, the more you can put out there the better
Thats the mentality I've got. I went from a 38 SF where I regularly trolled 12 rods on calm days, down to a 23 CC where I'm squeezing 9 rods into the spread. It's unbelievable when 5 or 6 rods all go off at once on yellowfins.
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Many different opinions on this subject. I would try them all and see what works for you best.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:29 AM   #19
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Give me 4 bars in a spread running perfectly than a bunch running fukked up any day.
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The biggest problem with smaller boats is matching the size of the spread of larger boats. What are some of you small boat guys doing to run a larger spread? Last summer I was able to get 9 rods going. I added three by screwing release clips into painters poles and putting them in the T-Top rocket launcher. Two 6 foot poles in the end rod holders and a 10 foot pole in the middle. I ran two on each outrigger, two flat lines clipped down in tight, then two from each end of the leaning post rocket launcher up to the 6 foot poles and run those between the long and short riggers, then another in the center of the leaning post up to the 10 foot pole way way back. Has anyone else tried this? It worked pretty well and I can count on one hand the amount of tangles we had all season.

The outer T-Top rod holders are angled out just a touch so with the length of the painters poles those two lines run about a foot inside of the corner rod holders.
looks like a good spread,but might be hell trying to remove a rod on the rocket launcher holders after a true giant grabs a hold.
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