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Old 02-18-2013, 05:17 PM   #1
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Default Parker 2510 xld WA for NE waters?

Thinking about moving up. Boat mostly out of northern MA out of the Merrimack. Like inshore fishing but also want to go more offshore. Stellwagen, Jefferies, etc. Like the build and simplicity of Parker's.

Looking at the xld hull, not the MV. Walkaround, not the PH. Twin yam150s would be my choice.

Any feedback on the ride? Anything I should know, pro or con?
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Classicparker.com. Lots of great info.
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Parkers are sweet fishing rigs. I think you will like them. I looked around for a 28' for a while but the prices were insane for used. They hold their value well. You might want to look at C-hawk / Steiger also. I ended up buying the C-hawk 29.
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You won't mind running the inlet in that tank! They are really heavy, solid riding boats. Just wondering why you prefer the walk around? The pilot house cockpit gives you tons of room for fishing, although on a big pilot house you would probably really want a second station for fishing and that does bump up the $$.

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I had an Eastern 27' that I ran out of the Merrimac for years and it did everything that I wanted inshore and offshore
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Do your homework on which exact hull you are buying. around 2002 Parker was building three different hull shapes in the 25' 14, 16, and 21 deg deadrise.
With twin 150s it is likely a 21, but I would double check. classic parker will show you how to tell them apart.
I had a 1996 2520 with the 14' deadrise, and I currently have a 2002 2520XL which is 16'.
Both boats will pound, but the 2520xl with trim tabs and a bracket is a much better ride than the 14 was. Some people might say ther are not offshore boats, but I can tell you they are very stable and seaworthy, just a litle uncomfortable in the chop, but it is managable if you know how to drive the boat.
I have never ridden a 21deg hull, but I would imagine it would ride alot better in the chop, but might be a bit more rolly.
In new england you cant beat the shelter of the 2520 cabin, with the outside station option, you will love it.
The full transom and bracket arrangment is the best with huge storage. lots of deckspace
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You won't mind running the inlet in that tank! They are really heavy, solid riding boats. Just wondering why you prefer the walk around? The pilot house cockpit gives you tons of room for fishing, although on a big pilot house you would probably really want a second station for fishing and that does bump up the $$.

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At least in a 2002 2510dv, the ride is a world better than a pilot house. imo of course
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Get the DV. 21 degree dead rise.
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I had a 2510 DV with twin F150's. I took it offshore on a regular basis.

It generally rode well and was a stable platform. One of the things that was really nice was that it would drift with the stern straight into the sea. That meant zero roll at drift and all the lines went straight out the back so we had a lot more options to put baits out.

The F150's pushed it ok, but it was no speed daemon. I generally cruised about 18 knots. With no load in the river I could approach 30, but outside the boundary line you could never really go fast with a full load and rolling roads.

The only negative I would give it is it tends to pound in anything above 3 feet. Some sea states you would come down on one wave in every set. It's more uncomfortable because the helm is so far forwards. The cabin was uninhabitable if it was rough and we were running. You could hit the ceiling from the bunk and come back down again.

And yes, I did know how to drive it. Only certain sea states did that. Mostly it was a comfortable ride.

But not a speed daemon with 150's and a full load.
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Check out the 26 Steiger at Ryders Cove ! !
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Thank you for this honest input! Yes, the xld is the 21 deep vee hull. Looking at a 2007. I will need to take it for a sea trial and wanted to know what to look for. Pounding in a chop seems to be the biggest negative I keep hearing, probably because of the nearly 10 ft beam. Even with the deep vee. Guess I am one of the few who prefers the WA over the PH, just not ready to be always "inside".
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Whatever the Parkers may lack in ride they more than make up for when the lines are out. Long skinny DV wave runners are don't make the best fishing platforms, IMO. Doesn't mater if I'm cruising at 22 or 20 or even 12 knots; I still on the water an don't have anything to complain about...
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Thank you for this honest input! Yes, the xld is the 21 deep vee hull. Looking at a 2007. I will need to take it for a sea trial and wanted to know what to look for. Pounding in a chop seems to be the biggest negative I keep hearing, probably because of the nearly 10 ft beam. Even with the deep vee. Guess I am one of the few who prefers the WA over the PH, just not ready to be always "inside".
Typical bay chop isn't an issue. You can make the ride much better by using your tabs, trim, and throttle. I almost never pounded in chop.

I'm talking about bigger seas where you can become airborne coming off the largest wave in a set if the seas are steep. Large steep waves are not "chop". Chop is not how you would describe steep 3-5's (unless they are tht waves).

In those cases, you belly flop as the wave falls away as you come over the top. In chop, just keep the nose down and you are fine.
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Typical bay chop isn't an issue. You can make the ride much better by using your tabs, trim, and throttle. I almost never pounded in chop.

I'm talking about bigger seas where you can become airborne coming off the largest wave in a set if the seas are steep. Large steep waves are not "chop". Chop is not how you would describe steep 3-5's (unless they are tht waves).

In those cases, you belly flop as the wave falls away as you come over the top. In chop, just keep the nose down and you are fine.
Agree 100%
I added about 100lbs of plastic coated gym weights to the bottom of the anchor locker and it helped kep the bow down. Also kept the wind from blowing the bow around as bad when docking.
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Typical bay chop isn't an issue. You can make the ride much better by using your tabs, trim, and throttle. I almost never pounded in chop.

I'm talking about bigger seas where you can become airborne coming off the largest wave in a set if the seas are steep. Large steep waves are not "chop". Chop is not how you would describe steep 3-5's (unless they are tht waves).

In those cases, you belly flop as the wave falls away as you come over the top. In chop, just keep the nose down and you are fine.
I have the Parker 2520 with 16 degree dead rise , your comments are spot on. Given your location, and mine, coming out of Mystic CT, we have likely hit a lot of the same 3-5s with our Parker's. I run a single F225 that I have had the pleasure (NOT) of buying a new midsection for as a result of the infamous Yamaha Dry Exhaust malady. Boat cruises at 18-20kts almost always loaded HEAVY with technical dive gear, people and fuel. Given the sea state, most of the time my power, while a long way from FAST, is adequate. I get the occasional flat calm day that leaves me yearning for more power but most of the time I am ok and the 7.5-8.5 gph fuel burn is tolerable.

Ninety % of the time my boat is used for shipwreck diving but I do occasionally fish and have messed with some BIG sharks out at Tuna Ridge and Sharks Ledge as well as some inshore stuff. ZERO complaints with the Parker but I will say anyone who plans on doing much trolling should seriously consider the 2nd control station as trolling without it is not a lot of fun for the helmsmen.

This will be my 7th season with my Parker 25, I have nothing but good things to say about the quality of the boat and it feels good going to a boat shows year after year and NOT seeing anything that suits my needs better for operating April-November in Southern New England Waters and in my price range then my Parker 2520....

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I have the Parker 2520 with 16 degree dead rise , your comments are spot on. Given your location, and mine, coming out of Mystic CT, we have likely hit a lot of the same 3-5s with our Parker's. I run a single F225 that I have had the pleasure (NOT) of buying a new midsection for as a result of the infamous Yamaha Dry Exhaust malady. Boat cruises at 18-20kts almost always loaded HEAVY with technical dive gear, people and fuel. Given the sea state, most of the time my power, while a long way from FAST, is adequate. I get the occasional flat calm day that leaves me yearning for more power but most of the time I am ok and the 7.5-8.5 gph fuel burn is tolerable.

Ninety % of the time my boat is used for shipwreck diving but I do occasionally fish and have messed with some BIG sharks out at Tuna Ridge and Sharks Ledge as well as some inshore stuff. ZERO complaints with the Parker but I will say anyone who plans on doing much trolling should seriously consider the 2nd control station as trolling without it is not a lot of fun for the helmsmen.

This will be my 7th season with my Parker 25, I have nothing but good things to say about the quality of the boat and it feels good going to a boat shows year after year and NOT seeing anything that suits my needs better for operating April-November in Southern New England Waters and in my price range then my Parker 2520....
With the 2510, it's a little easier getting to the helm. With an AP, I never really missed a second station. The AP is like having another hand on board.
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Agree 100%
I added about 100lbs of plastic coated gym weights to the bottom of the anchor locker and it helped kep the bow down. Also kept the wind from blowing the bow around as bad when docking.

Sheesh, docking. Don't remind me.

The boat was like a kite. It wanted to swing with a slight breeze so the bow was pointing away from the wind (same reason it drifts stern to sea). It took an aggressive hand to dock in the wind.

It's actually easier to dock my single 35 than it was to dock that boat some days.
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Thank you for this honest input! Yes, the xld is the 21 deep vee hull. Looking at a 2007. I will need to take it for a sea trial and wanted to know what to look for. Pounding in a chop seems to be the biggest negative I keep hearing, probably because of the nearly 10 ft beam. Even with the deep vee. Guess I am one of the few who prefers the WA over the PH, just not ready to be always "inside".
That was my exact concern about a Parker or Steiger... I couldn't imagine being inside that PH in August. I came close, but couldn't do it.

I went with a Hydra Sports Walkaround that has a beautiful enclosure that serves me well on those nasty days or mornings. PH's look great, but can't imagine being inside ALL the time.

Hardtop is a MUST IMO. The Parker WA's are sharp!! Good luck....
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I went with the walkaround over the pilot house and couldn't be happier. On those early and late season days just keep the the vinyl down and three adults are comfortably out of the wind while traveling. I got the mv hull with single 250.

Cons-- I wish there was more power(to muscle through a following sea) on rough ocean days as that is when there is a full load. With 4 or 5 adults 200pounds of ice, 3 buckets of chum, flats of bait, a full tank of gas, and sometimes a 300 shark in the cockpit.Coming back in 4 footers it handles like a wet sponge. Also you just cant go fast in chop as it does pound alot more than other boats I've been on. Docking sucks too on windy days.


Pro's you will not find a boat in the 25' range that feels as big in the cockpit as the parker.I primarily use it in Long Island sound and it is a tank. The 9'6 beam make the boat feel like a different class than grady's--hydrosports or any of the sporty 25's. What the mv lacks in the comfort of the ride in a chop it more than makes up for at a drift. The boat drifts unbelievably well. I take it offshore as often as the weather allows (will only go on "forecasted" 5 to 10 winds and at most 2 to 4' seas) and even on the nasty days when they got it wrong never felt unsafe and the day a drift in this boat is a blast.

So if you want a walkaround boat that will cruise at a slower pace but will be much more stable at a drift with a huge cockpit you wont be disappointed.
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I have the open back Parker 2520dv. The open back acts like the walk around. Most of the season, the curtains are up and I have unrestricted access to the cockpit.
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