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Old 01-25-2010, 08:08 AM
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i am gonna try tuna fishing this year at stellwagen and mudhole. looking for trolling advice. i don't have outriggers. currently i have 2 30" jethead spreader bars,2 green machine daisy chains,i cedar plug daisy chain. i have 2 okuma titus gold 50 2spd reels with pinnacle rods. what is the minimum number of rods out to troll and what layout would be best and not get line all tangled for a new fishermen??
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Try 3,put a pair on flat -line clips out on your transom and a center rig down the middle
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:21 AM
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Troll the maximum number of lines that you can troll effectively.... with the "effectively" being the optimum word. For years I only trolled 4 rods, all with squid bars. My crew have reached the old age of 10 and 12, so now I troll 6 lines...

One line, trolled correctly beats a cluster of a mis-shapen spread. Start small and add more as you get more experience.

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pony up for a private charter, tell the capt what you want to do and he/she will show you the tip/tricks.
The $$ you will spend on a charter or two will be peanuts to the $$ you will spend trying to figure it out. But if your like me - you will go trial and error.
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Originally Posted by scottmori View Post
i am gonna try tuna fishing this year at stellwagen and mudhole. looking for trolling advice. i don't have outriggers. currently i have 2 30" jethead spreader bars,2 green machine daisy chains,i cedar plug daisy chain. i have 2 okuma titus gold 50 2spd reels with pinnacle rods. what is the minimum number of rods out to troll and what layout would be best and not get line all tangled for a new fishermen??
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Just as important as how many rods is were and how they are running in the spread and how to handle the boat propertly while the spread is in the water to prevent tangles and crossing lines. 3 rods would be the absolute minimum i would put out for a trolling spread.

Another thing to consider is the bait used in different locations. The bite on the bank and the bite in the mud hole are a little different and the baits used are different as well. If you are going to fish stellwagon and are going to be trolling you will want to include spreader bars with shell/bulb squids in the 11" range. Productive colors can change from year to year and even from season to season but the orange/black (Trick or treat), and black with a white stinger have been pretty productive the past few years. Also plan on the tuna you encounter in the mud hole to be smaller then what you will likey encounter out on the bank. The tuna you will encounter on the bank in 2010 should be mostly in the upper 100 to lower 200 pound class and in the upper 60" class in CFL. Thats a serious fish for a newbe (No offence)

Don't forget your permit, and the other gear you will need fight and harvest a 150 to 200lb tuna. A good fighting belt is an absolute must, a poon or flying gaff is also a must, strait gaff and tail rope are both needed as well. Also some mussle to get a 150+ pound fish in the boat. And the most important is the camera you will only have one first.
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thanks guys i still have a few months to aquire the rest of the gear. then the learning curve!! i will be happy with one tuna.(easy to say in january).
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pony up for a private charter, tell the capt what you want to do and he/she will show you the tip/tricks.
The $$ you will spend on a charter or two will be peanuts to the $$ you will spend trying to figure it out. But if your like me - you will go trial and error.
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On a small boat without outriggers, I would go with 5 rods - three accross the transom plus two off the sides. Realistically, the bigger the pattern, the more likely you are to hook a fish when you pass over them. The big guys, 50' boats with 30' outriggers, will troll as many as 13 lines (3 off each rigger, 1 per side off the gunnel, 2 off each side of the centerline of the transom and 1 off the center rigger).
Set up your 5 rods in a W pattern: with the spreader bars on the outside long (4-5 wake); chains, single lures, Ballyhoo in the transom corner positions (3-4 wakes astern) and either a spreader bar or daisy chain in the center as your longest lure (6-7 wakes astern).
Crew size and conditons dictate how many we troll on my 32' boat, but it is never less than 7 rods, and usually 9 or 11 (two off each outrigger)
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Another factor is wind direction.If you troll Stellwagen with a stiff breeze off the beach,You'll be cleaning weeds off your rigs all day.
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go to the 2 south shore tuna seminars being help, one by damon and eric, other greag sears.
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Do you have a link or website?
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:42 AM
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go to the 2 south shore tuna seminars being help, one by damon and eric, other greag sears.

If someone would provide any info on these seminars it would be appreciated.

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If someone would provide any info on these seminars it would be appreciated.

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http://www.massbayguides.com/fishingseminar.html
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Damon and Eric's "Big Game Bash" http://big-game-bash.castafari.com/
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Damon and Eric's "Big Game Bash" http://big-game-bash.castafari.com/
Im thinking of going,Anyone else?
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If you are still thinking you may want to deside by Friday Feb.5th so you will have a chance at winning the $5000 Grand Door Prize, which is a fishing trip to Panama on the Coral Star. I was going but the admairal has made other plans for that weekend. I have a few friends that are going and knowing Capt Eric, along with Capt Damon and Capt Terry and all the sponsers it should be a killer event.
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Also try to work in some X-Raps they can be very effective. Last season live bait was key. Get live macks, pogies, or bluefish. Float them under a balloon. You WILL hook up.
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Invest in some spreader bars.... great for small spread, creates some commotion and looks like a school.
As well, consider a couple of birds in fromt of the green machines, they will give you good visibility of the location of spread and also create the commotion you need for a narrow spread.
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On a small boat without outriggers, I would go with 5 rods - three accross the transom plus two off the sides. Realistically, the bigger the pattern, the more likely you are to hook a fish when you pass over them. The big guys, 50' boats with 30' outriggers, will troll as many as 13 lines (3 off each rigger, 1 per side off the gunnel, 2 off each side of the centerline of the transom and 1 off the center rigger).
Set up your 5 rods in a W pattern: with the spreader bars on the outside long (4-5 wake); chains, single lures, Ballyhoo in the transom corner positions (3-4 wakes astern) and either a spreader bar or daisy chain in the center as your longest lure (6-7 wakes astern).
Crew size and conditons dictate how many we troll on my 32' boat, but it is never less than 7 rods, and usually 9 or 11 (two off each outrigger)
Sounds like he will be trolling for bluefin. Most do not use big spreads at all when targeting BFT given that your lures tend to be much farther back then when trolling Yellowfin. 5 would be more than sufficient. Get those skirted ballyhoo way back, practice your troll speed and you will be happy
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