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We want to bring our 24’ power boat to MA from FL this summer. Boat registered in FL, all legal. Do we have to pay MA any additional taxes to use the boat in MA? Do we have to register in MA as well as FL?

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Old 02-15-2021, 01:48 PM
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Believe MA is > 60 days consecutive stay requires MA registration unless documented
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In mass you can use an out of state registered boat for 60 consecutive days without having to register it. Here is something from the Mass.gov boat registration FAQ page:

”Q: I live in another state but sometimes boat in Massachusetts. Do I need to register and title my boat?

A: Visiting boat owners who are registered in another state are allowed to boat in Massachusetts for up to 60 consecutive days without obtaining a Massachusetts registration and title. If you plan to keep the boat in Massachusetts for more than 60 consecutive days, you must obtain a Massachusetts registration and title certificate.”


The taxes and fees issue really depends on your circumstances. If you are keeping the boat on the trailer I don’t see an issue. If you plan to keep the boat in a marina, or on a mooring, you might have complications from the local Harbormaster. Many locations require a use decal that at worst could be $100. But don’t panic about taxes. They are based on an artificial value formula, our boat that has an actual market value roughly equal to a Boston suburban house has a tax value of less than 10k because of its age.


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No to both -
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Old 02-15-2021, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
Incorrect.
police showed up.

take it to RI for a day. Bring it up and enjoy your summer.
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Originally Posted by hightimes View Post
police showed up....yup

take it to ri for a day and buy gas or launch the boat. Just make sure to get a receipt.
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well the same would go for your drivers license if you stay longer than 60 days but how many snowbirds you know that are changing license or registrations back and forth none they pick one location register everything there and then go back and forth no matter whether its for 30 days or just less than 6 months to keep there primary residence in which ever state they want it in.
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There is a Use Tax in Massachusetts. On the 20th consecutive day of using the boat (they could include this as being on a trailer in yard who knows in this state) in Massachusetts, a Use Tax equal to the Sales Tax will be due. To avoid the Use Tax, the boat (And Trailer?) must leave Massachusetts for a day/night every 19 days. As ReelNauti said above, keep your receipts. I have never kept my boats or trailers in Massachusetts (Always in RI) but a few years ago, I got an ST-6 from Massachusetts stating I owed a significant bill for Use Tax and late fees. I fortunately had all my records for storage, transient slips, etc, and was able to defend & win the claim against the state. The burden to provide proof will be on you. Now I don't think you should reasonably have any issues if you are just launching for a day here or there but some boat launches and marinas have been recording boat information of the transients. I don't know anyone who has had an issue yet but it would be good to keep your receipts.
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I really think that it's unrealistic that anyone would bother you. If someone really wanted to harass you they would need to know exactly when you arrived.
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Originally Posted by Toothpick 10 View Post
I really think that it's unrealistic that anyone would bother you. If someone really wanted to harass you they would need to know exactly when you arrived.
If someone has a slip or pays for storage, the information could be fed from the marina/storage facility, to the state. Seasonal slip contracts would likely put the onus on the boat owner to prove the boat is not in the state 60 days.
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You’ll likely need a mooring permit as well that includes a slip rental.

you’ll get whacked with an excise tax bill unless you keep yourself boat on a trailer as the town will find you via the paperwork associated with a mooring or slip.
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
If someone has a slip or pays for storage, the information could be fed from the marina/storage facility, to the state. Seasonal slip contracts would likely put the onus on the boat owner to prove the boat is not in the state 60 days.
The way Massachusetts sent me a Use Tax bill was because I spent a week on MV with the boat and supposedly was on a list of out of state boats on a transient report by Oak Bluffs. Not sure if that was true but that is what one person told me when I responded to the letter they sent me. As the Use Tax hits on the 20th day, it wouldn’t take long for someone to trip over it fairly easy. At my marina in RI, the CG does rounds checking certain things and the Marina mentioned that they do check on boats that are federally documented at the Marina to verify everything with their home port state.
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Originally Posted by Soulstice View Post
The way Massachusetts sent me a Use Tax bill was because I spent a week on MV with the boat and supposedly was on a list of out of state boats on a transient report by Oak Bluffs. Not sure if that was true but that is what one person told me when I responded to the letter they sent me. As the Use Tax hits on the 20th day, it wouldn’t take long for someone to trip over it fairly easy. At my marina in RI, the CG does rounds checking certain things and the Marina mentioned that they do check on boats that are federally documented at the Marina to verify everything with their home port state.
Thats kind of crazy that they sent you a use tax bill for visiting MV for a week.

What do you mean by the use tax hits on the 20th day?

Also, the CG wouldn't be checking anything related to taxes... what do you mean by verify home port? You can slap any home port you want on a federally documented boat...
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A use tax will not be due on the ops boat brought into Massachusetts, greater than 20 days or otherwise. Not the law nor has it ever been.
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Another crazy question on THT . Just tow your boat up here and use it good lord !!! If anyone questioned it ( which I highly doubt ) it's very easy to play dumb . I've towed boats to Florida and used them down there and this question would never even cross my mind. I realize mass is different but come on ...
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Thanks for all your responses.
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Originally Posted by Bostonirish View Post
Another crazy question on THT . Just tow your boat up here and use it good lord !!! If anyone questioned it ( which I highly doubt ) it's very easy to play dumb . I've towed boats to Florida and used them down there and this question would never even cross my mind. I realize mass is different but come on ...
another crazy response on THT....

play dumb? hahahahaha

you obviously know nothing about how states try to collect tax monies on boats

come on
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Originally Posted by caper View Post
No to both -
totally wrong.
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Originally Posted by Lemonbayboating View Post
well the same would go for your drivers license if you stay longer than 60 days but how many snowbirds you know that are changing license or registrations back and forth none they pick one location register everything there and then go back and forth no matter whether its for 30 days or just less than 6 months to keep there primary residence in which ever state they want it in.
changing drivers license is NOT a requirement.

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