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Sorry if this is the wrong place, but does anyone here have experience with legally acquiring a gun in NY?

I see alot of conflicting information, and I understand that NYC is pretty much handgun (impossible) or hunting rifle only. How about Westchester and Suffolk counties? Any idea of the process?
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What sort of gun are you looking to acquire? And if a handgun, what do you plan to do with it once you have it (i.e. keep it in the house or carry it around?)

If you are buying a rifle or shotgun and are outside NYC, just go buy it. It just has to be a NY legal gun, i.e. lack "scary features".

For handguns you can read up online about the permit required and what you have to do to apply for one.
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Originally Posted by Gali View Post
Sorry if this is the wrong place, but does anyone here have experience with legally acquiring a gun in NY?

I see alot of conflicting information, and I understand that NYC is pretty much handgun (impossible) or hunting rifle only. How about Westchester and Suffolk counties? Any idea of the process?
Tons of info on gun-specific forums for NYC and NY state including the process for each county is either easily google-able or searchable on each county's website

I wouldnt be asking on or referencing THT for this stuff...

Cliffs: some counties are very difficult to get carry. almost all you can get target/premesis but they take their sweet time. if you want nyc carry you might have a small chance if you have a ny state carry, get the special carry nyc endorsement because you are a big shot executive or lawyer or actor etc. if you are a nobody, ain't happenin'

Cliffs 2: apparently many "other firearms" are OK in NY which is surprising... MA seems to be the only state that has an issue with "others" ... that could all change... the hope would be existing firearms would be grandfathered in...

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Originally Posted by Gali View Post
Sorry if this is the wrong place, but does anyone here have experience with legally acquiring a gun in NY?

I see alot of conflicting information, and I understand that NYC is pretty much handgun (impossible) or hunting rifle only. How about Westchester and Suffolk counties? Any idea of the process?
I see that you're in Greenport so imagine you care about Suffolk. For a handgun , it used to be 6 months almost to the day to get your permit, but now with all of the gun buying I understand its a lot longer. That's for a 'sportsmans' permit..you can keep it at home, hunting and carry it concealed to and from a range, but not stop anywhere. For a full concealed carry , you need to show a need. For more info call the Suffolk County Pistol License Bur.

Long guns are not a problem but may be difficult to find at this point...look online at the local gun shops and they are sold out of the most popular ones .
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If yo are in Greenport you are very lucky. Your handgun license agency is the Suffolk County Sheriff in Riverhead. They are much quicker and more generous than the Suffolk County PD is (for the other half of your county). A carry permit is possible but challenging. Go and apply now so you can start running the clock, it will take at least 4-6 months. Also visit: http://www.longislandgunclub.com . Lots of info there to be found.

For long guns (rifle/shotgun), no permit needed. Go over to a local gun store (Baits and Barrels in Riverhead?) and do some shopping.
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License is in Westchester County, but I could always change to Suffolk County if there was a need.

I have gone to ranges with friends who all have the big scary assault rifles with their "high capacity magazines". From my research apparently there is a NY Safe law that bans all types of these rifles that were not registered before 2014? Is that true? Rifles (non hunting) were what my primary interest was.
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Originally Posted by Gali View Post
License is in Westchester County, but I could always change to Suffolk County if there was a need.

I have gone to ranges with friends who all have the big scary assault rifles with their "high capacity magazines". From my research apparently there is a NY Safe law that bans all types of these rifles that were not registered before 2014? Is that true? Rifles (non hunting) were what my primary interest was.
Do they all have "other firearms"? Tax stamp?

high capacity was grandfathered for existing magazines IIRC
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For New York State, only SAFE Act compliant rifles and magazines of =<10 rounds are allowed. No AR-15s unless registered. No magazines >10 rounds unless they are "antique" and registered.

For a Westchester handgun license, go to the County Clerk in White Plains and apply. The wait is 6++ months now and you will be required to take a safety course. A carry permit is not realistically possible.
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Originally Posted by C3D View Post
For New York State, only SAFE Act compliant rifles and magazines of =<10 rounds are allowed. No AR-15s unless registered. No magazines >10 rounds unless they are "antique" and registered.

For a Westchester handgun license, go to the County Clerk in White Plains and apply. The wait is 6++ months now and you will be required to take a safety course. A carry permit is not realistically possible.
Pretty sure you can get an "AR 15" that is a "other"
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
Pretty sure you can get an "AR 15" that is a "other"
Yes - "NY Legal" Ar15 is a thing. No scary features. It basically comes down to pistol grip OR removable mag, not both.
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Never lived in NY but since they have a number of laws why not go to a store where you might buy something and ask them what it is legal for them to SELL?
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What t500hps said !!!

Start here if you want to get some ideas.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/sites/go...article_inline

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Originally Posted by ronp364 View Post
Yes - "NY Legal" Ar15 is a thing. No scary features. It basically comes down to pistol grip OR removable mag, not both.
Very strange, there are several FFLs selling "others" that have both...
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Originally Posted by Gali View Post
I see alot of conflicting information, and I understand that NYC is pretty much handgun (impossible)
surely it's possible. All those shootings aren't from hunting rifles or shotguns. Lol
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
Very strange, there are several FFLs selling "others" that have both...
I believe there are some models that are creatively designed to have a "sort of" pistol grip that isn't a "protruding pistol grip". From what I had read a while back, there were questions about whether some of those were legal or not and there were no definitive answers forthcoming. LEOs gave conflicting answers so it depended who was asked on what day. There's the rub - it's not just about what you can go out and buy. Something happens later on and you may have to prove you didn't commit a felony. In a state where no one currently in officialdom has the law abiding gun owner's back, that's a concern.

Pistol grip: A grip that “protrudes conspicuously” below the weapon, allowing the shooter to hold the rifle or shotgun like a pistol.

Define conspicuous. Or inconspicuous.


Putting any one of these features on a semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine will qualify the firearm as an "assault weapon" under the Safe Act:

Folding or Telescoping Stock
Protruding Pistol Grip
Thumbhole Stock
Second Handgrip or Protruding Grip that can be held by non-shooting hand
Bayonet Mount
Flash Suppressor
Muzzle Brake
Muzzle Compensator
A threaded barrel designed to accommodate attachments to the barrel
Grenade Launcher
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Originally Posted by ronp364 View Post
I believe there are some models that are creatively designed to have a "sort of" pistol grip that isn't a "protruding pistol grip". From what I had read a while back, there were questions about whether some of those were legal or not and there were no definitive answers forthcoming. LEOs gave conflicting answers so it depended who was asked on what day. There's the rub - it's not just about what you can go out and buy. Something happens later on and you may have to prove you didn't commit a felony. In a state where no one currently in officialdom has the law abiding gun owner's back, that's a concern.

Pistol grip: A grip that “protrudes conspicuously” below the weapon, allowing the shooter to hold the rifle or shotgun like a pistol.

Define conspicuous. Or inconspicuous.


Putting any one of these features on a semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine will qualify the firearm as an "assault weapon" under the Safe Act:

Folding or Telescoping Stock
Protruding Pistol Grip
Thumbhole Stock
Second Handgrip or Protruding Grip that can be held by non-shooting hand
Bayonet Mount
Flash Suppressor
Muzzle Brake
Muzzle Compensator
A threaded barrel designed to accommodate attachments to the barrel
Grenade Launcher
http://www.deltaleveldefense.com/ct4-2a-other-firearm

Read the OTHER FIREARM section

They state that "It is a non NFA item, legal in all 50 states except MA; and not subject to any assault weapon ban or restriction. No pinned mags"
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
http://www.deltaleveldefense.com/ct4-2a-other-firearm

Read the OTHER FIREARM section

They state that "It is a non NFA item, legal in all 50 states except MA; and not subject to any assault weapon ban or restriction. No pinned mags"
NYS legal until Cuomo gets wind of it and passes yet another law to specifically make owning it illegal, and the government does not have to "grandfather" anything.
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Originally Posted by DoubleDose View Post
NYS legal until Cuomo gets wind of it and passes yet another law to specifically make owning it illegal, and the government does not have to "grandfather" anything.
Reading directly from the NYS website linked above it says "Any AR‐15 variant designed to fire
ammunition in any caliber "
is classified as an assault weapon and banned. I am a bit confused because I am confident I've seen people fire AR'15s at the ranges in suffolk county.
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Gali read post #11 and don't rely on the Internet for legal advice especially when dealing with NYS firearm laws.
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Originally Posted by Gali View Post
Reading directly from the NYS website linked above it says "Any AR‐15 variant designed to fire
ammunition in any caliber "
is classified as an assault weapon and banned. I am a bit confused because I am confident I've seen people fire AR'15s at the ranges in suffolk county.
Read that link that Jecaro posted from NYS. Perhaps those that you saw shooting ARs at the range were one of the few who registered their rifles with the state.
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