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Old 10-17-2020, 11:16 AM
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What brand, model, etc? Ice machine do you guys recommend and why please. I am looking into making the purchase over the winter. My criteria is 115V and approximately 100lb storage.
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On a 100lb per 24 hour period it does not matter,they are all made by a couple of foreign companies and everybody just puts their name on them.

They do not sell parts to fix them if they break or very few and they are all made to do the same thing.

Work until they break,throw it away and buy another,buy the cheapest one.

In this case it does not matter what brand name is on them,it’s the same machine.

If you look at the cheap $350 ones they do not have a curtain that opens when the ice drops,the expensive ones that have that use a sensor that is basically a magnet in a tube that completes circuit and starts the ice making process over again.

You cannot buy that sensor,and it kills the whole machine when they go bad,you also cannot buy the replacement computers for them either.

You may get 3 or 4 years out of a branded $1500 one just like you may get 3 or 4 years out of a $350 one.

Whatever you decide just make sure you install the best water filter you can,it may help improve the odds.

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I have a small Scotsman. Makes about 40-50lbs a day, and I have a small chest freezer next to it that holds 14 10lb bags. Unit itself holds about 35lbs.

Small, compact, and fits our needs.
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What units are $350 that hold 100 lbs? I am not being a smart ass. I just can’t find them. I appreciate the advice, can you steer me further please?
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I was just looking for same thing as you, thought be into it for $1500+, but apparentely not... Sounds like they're throw away fixtures, so might just do one of these no name brands and hope for the best. THe actually got pretty good reviews for what its worth...

(Sorry THT won't let me post links yet as im a newb... so just search these 2 units on Amazon)

hOmeLabs Freestanding Commercial Ice Maker Machine - Makes 99 Pounds Ice in 24 hrs with 29 Pounds Storage Capacity = $389

ROVSUN Built-in Stainless Steel Freestanding Ice Maker, Make 100/150lbs 24h = $379

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Originally Posted by Irishdevil0311 View Post
What units are $350 that hold 100 lbs? I am not being a smart ass. I just can’t find them. I appreciate the advice, can you steer me further please?
You will not even find a 100# per 24 hour period with a 100# bin in a brand name.

The 100# pound per 24 hour period is based on production capabilities under ideal circumstances and not how much storage it holds in the process.

Thats why,as mentioned in the other post,some will bag ice then shut the unit off once they have a stock pile.

Look on amazon with a search of 100# ice machines.

The difference is with the name brand,some have a 90# storage capacity,but that would be for you to decide if paying the extra $1000 is worth being able to store an extra 30# of ice in a machine where it will most likely melt before it is used.

They are not like your freezer that makes ice and keeps it frozen for months,if you do not consume it,it will melt and the machine will be working hard to keep it topped off.

You have to base it on what you think your demand will be.

I sell equipment and I have one of those counter top ice and water machines,it is capable of making 200lbs of ice in a 24 hour period but only has a 25# storage.

The difference between the small machines and the big ones is the box is smaller so it makes ice faster because it uses the coldness off of the already created ice.

The trade off is storage capacity.

So in your case how much ice are you going to consume in that 24 hour cycle?

The $350 ones have a 24 to 35 # storage capacity the other name brand ones have up to 90# but every single one shuts off when they fill the bin.

If you are not going to use or relocate the ice and without the storage capacity the 100lb in a 24 hour period is kinda pointless because it is only capable of storing 90lbs.

The smaller the bin the faster it produces,your intended end requirement is what determines what you need.

The other things is where you are planning on installing it and what the room temperature is,that has a big impact on production and how long the ice lasts in the bin.

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This is my set up, Scotsman and small freezer, both kept outside in my pool area, under a covered porch. Been this way for the past 5 years, works great.

I shut it off at the end of October and drain it for the winter, fire it back up in April.

Wasn't cheap, but it has been dependable.


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Originally Posted by Dockmaster View Post
This is my set up, Scotsman and small freezer, both kept outside in my pool area, under a covered porch. Been this way for the past 5 years, works great.

I shut it off at the end of October and drain it for the winter, fire it back up in April.

Wasn't cheap, but it has been dependable.

. I just got a similar Maxice one used, why do you do to winterize it
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Amazon Amazon

We have this exact one, just finished its second season. It has been great with no issues. We left it on for the renters at a summer house and it was a huge hit. Combined with the chest freezer and bags you can plan for a trip or save up more than the bin capacity. It fills a 5 gallon bucket which is perfect for just topping the bigger Yetis off. The ice is a little "wet" because the bin isn't insulated but whatever.

Definitely the introduction to ice at home for us and was a soft commitment compared to the $1500-$2k commercial machines, but this has really been all we need and 10/10 will buy again whenever this breaks.
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Originally Posted by Iceman2010 View Post
. I just got a similar Maxice one used, why do you do to winterize it
There is a rubber plug that drains the water from the ice maker area, then I remove the inline filter, and also blow low pressure compressed air thru.

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Is I think safe to say a 5 gal bucket is approximately 30 lbs of ice by volume? I am trying to figure out how much I actually need at a time
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Originally Posted by Rjh1960 View Post
On a 100lb per 24 hour period it does not matter,they are all made by a couple of foreign companies and everybody just puts their name on them.

They do not sell parts to fix them if they break or very few and they are all made to do the same thing.

Work until they break,throw it away and buy another,buy the cheapest one.

In this case it does not matter what brand name is on them,it’s the same machine.

If you look at the cheap $350 ones they do not have a curtain that opens when the ice drops,the expensive ones that have that use a sensor that is basically a magnet in a tube that completes circuit and starts the ice making process over again.

You cannot buy that sensor,and it kills the whole machine when they go bad,you also cannot buy the replacement computers for them either.

You may get 3 or 4 years out of a branded $1500 one just like you may get 3 or 4 years out of a $350 one.

Whatever you decide just make sure you install the best water filter you can,it may help improve the odds.
this is total nonsense. Get a cheap throwaway or buy a hoshizaki or manitowoc once. Again, what is written above is total nonsense.
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The other thing I would add is that the idea of loading bags into a freezer is a good one. Ice will last much longer during use when it comes from the freezer as opposed to the ice machine. Yes there is the extra step of bagging the ice and loading it into the freezer but it’s well worth the trouble.
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this is total nonsense. Get a cheap throwaway or buy a hoshizaki or manitowoc once. Again, what is written above is total nonsense.
Sense I buy sell and service them I have a bit of a clue.

How come outside of the nameplate they are all the same?

If I order 500 of them I can have my name plate put in them.

Their 100 lb machines are no where near the quality of their full size units.

You can buy 6 cheap machines in the time frame of Scotsman’s 3 year warranty,if it breaks out if warranty or if the original purchaser forgets to register it,nobody in the ice machine repair sector will touch them.

Even if you buy a new cheap one a year you are still ahead of the game.

How many do you want? I can pick them up for $50 all day long at the auctions because nobody will touch them used.

If they were that great long term people would be paying more then $350 for a used one that is working.
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I am moving to Cape Coral and am in the ice maker dilemma also.
I have a 450lb per day Manitowoc that is 12 years old works great. Torn with taking it with me or going a to a smaller new ice maker.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Don't feel I will need as big a machine with the type of fishing I will now be doing.
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Originally Posted by Rjh1960 View Post
Sense I buy sell and service them I have a bit of a clue.

How come outside of the nameplate they are all the same?

If I order 500 of them I can have my name plate put in them.

Their 100 lb machines are no where near the quality of their full size units.

You can buy 6 cheap machines in the time frame of Scotsman’s 3 year warranty,if it breaks out if warranty or if the original purchaser forgets to register it,nobody in the ice machine repair sector will touch them.

Even if you buy a new cheap one a year you are still ahead of the game.

How many do you want? I can pick them up for $50 all day long at the auctions because nobody will touch them used.

If they were that great long term people would be paying more then $350 for a used one that is working.
You sound like a used car salesman .
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You sound like a used car salesman .
lol they asked,ice machines are based on anticipated use and budget,then the convience is weighed in.

They have become a homeowner fad of sorts,like exercise equipment and fire pits,sounds good at the time but if one decides that it is not the way to go the resale market is a bit lackluster.

If one is unsure,maybe start out with a cheaper one then move on to an expensive one if that is the preference.

The biggest 100# name brand holds 90# then they drop off to 50# and lower,so like has been posted you really need to supplement with a extra freezer and bag ice if that is your demand.

If you are only looking to have it for occasion parties etc. better off buying bags of ice,because they are not something you just buy and stick in the corner,they have to be cleaned and maintained.
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rjh...when you're in a hole, it's best to stop digging.

there is a lot of chinese crap out there and I don't doubt that much of it is sold off as different brands.

but the premium brands like hoshizaki and manitowoc are completely different than the crap you see out there for $350 or whatever. there are reasons they are expensive. and they will last a very very long time if properly maintained, especially in a home use environment.

as far as icemakers being a 'fad'...wtf are you talking about?
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rjh...when you're in a hole, it's best to stop digging.

there is a lot of chinese crap out there and I don't doubt that much of it is sold off as different brands.

but the premium brands like hoshizaki and manitowoc are completely different than the crap you see out there for $350 or whatever. there are reasons they are expensive. and they will last a very very long time if properly maintained, especially in a home use environment.

as far as icemakers being a 'fad'...wtf are you talking about?
not sure why you feel the need to stalk me.

How long has Scotsman etc been producing these machines?

They were not in the 60s70s80s or even until the late 90s.

Kenmore was but how many people do you know that had in home ice machines?

They took off when the outdoor kitchens took off, the only reason the brands got into them was because the demand kicked in.

They are made in America but show me Scotsman’s factory that builds them,and Manitowocs factory that builds them and Horshis factory that builds them.

They are made by one company that sticks the names on according to the buyer.

In this case they are no different then the Chinese junk,they work until they do not.

Big difference between the quality of their 100lb machines verses their real ones.

How come they do not supply replacement parts for them?

They give a 3 year warranty and are just like LG and the others,if you sell 1000 and have to change out 500 they are still making money.

Sure you can get $1500 for a 20 year old 500# name brand but they were manufactured in a different manner,the 100# were just thrown in to fill that nich.

What is the difference between made in America but filled with Chinese junk verses made in China junk.

The internals are still the same.

Outside of the warranty the control unit is $375 add the tech charges it become over $500,my experience shows me 95% will not spend it,they ditch the machine and buy a $500 one.

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I bought a Hoshizaki from a restaurant supply house used 10 years ago for $1000. Mine has a 300 lb insulated bin (I think) but the head is a component and you can get different sized bins. I have never done anything but drain it (flick a switch basically) in the fall and it fires up and works every spring. I would imagine that the restaurant supply places are overflowing right now and you could get a great deal on a commercial grade head and bin.


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