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Old 10-15-2020, 08:52 PM
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Towards the end of the season I started trolling lead core and single tubes. No problem hooking fish, but after a few turns of the reel, the lead core would break in the rod. Most of my fishing is in 30’ or less around Monomoy/Chatham. For those of you familiar with LC ...

What brand/pound test LC do you use?
What rod/guides (roller tip?) are best?
Does all of the LC need to be in the water?

I am using Penn 40s with mono backing. Not interested in wire, as I mostly fish with inexperienced family and friends. Thanks for your help!
Old 10-16-2020, 05:33 AM
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Sounds like you have some old rotten line , or cracked guides, typical setup is ,45 lb lead core, 50# mono backing and 25-45# flouro leader 10-20ft, don’t need a roller tip that’s used mostly for wire. Look up Pete santini tube and worm , good luck .
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Tuffline, Sufix, and Cortland all make good lead core. For tube and worm believe it or not and ugly stick tiger MH is about the perfect rod for it and I like high end gear so that tells you something. All the lead core needs to be in the water for the depth count to be accurate. For example you may have 5 colors out but only 4 colors are in the water so you depth is equal to that if 4 colors.
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Originally Posted by Ct Contender View Post
Tuffline, Sufix, and Cortland all make good lead core. For tube and worm believe it or not and ugly stick tiger MH is about the perfect rod for it and I like high end gear so that tells you something. All the lead core needs to be in the water for the depth count to be accurate. For example you may have 5 colors out but only 4 colors are in the water so you depth is equal to that if 4 colors.
If I troll with some of the LC still in the reel/rod, does the pressure on the LC in the guides weaken it and cause break offs?
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Originally Posted by CapeLife View Post
If I troll with some of the LC still in the reel/rod, does the pressure on the LC in the guides weaken it and cause break offs?
It shouldn’t but you need to be diligent about preventing kinks as those will weaken your line significantly.
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I sold my wire line rigs and gave up on LC. Braid with drail or keel weight is all you need for 30' or less.
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Yeah, weak line or a cracked guide cutting the line...or both.
Pretty standard set up is 45 lb lead core. Most put on 10 colors, or 100 yds, on top of some backer. I like maybe 6 feet of 40 lb mono or floro leader Take six inches or so of the lead core out of the line, slide the leader up inside the sheath and tie a half hitch that catches both works for me.No doubt there's a youtube on how to do it. Tubes you definitely need a high quality snap swivel.
Plain old ring guides are fine, the tip as well.
You let out how many colors for how deep you want to fish. Having lead core in the guides while fishing will not harm the line or the guides.
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Originally Posted by eweybrant View Post
I sold my wire line rigs and gave up on LC. Braid with drail or keel weight is all you need for 30' or less.

i'm with him.... I cannot stand wire or lead core line.

braid to a trolling weight to leader or mono.



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Thanks for your help. Much appreciated. I will give it another try next year.
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If your lead core has been on the reel for a couple seasons it may weaken. I have a habit of changing it every year or every other year. If you are experiencing break offs with the rod I would check all your guides and the tip.

I have found Muskie rods or fluke rods with backbone to make really good rods for tube and worm
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Agree with the lead core being old, I changed mine every third season, used Shakespeare Ugly Stick boat rods, worked great with Penn level-wined reels, s/s ball-bearing swivels and on a side note caught all my fish on red tubes, never had any luck with the black ones.
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Originally Posted by CapeLife View Post
If I troll with some of the LC still in the reel/rod, does the pressure on the LC in the guides weaken it and cause break offs?
It's always a good idea to let out a foot or so occasionally so that the same spot isn't always rubbing on the rod tip, especially if you happen to be jigging bucktails. I used to do this with wire as well, until I switched to the weighted keels like in the video below. I made my own from ss welding rod. The only downside is they tend to pick up weed easier.

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Did the line actually break or just the lead within the line? If the jacket is intact you should be good, the lead isn't for strength, its just to get the line to sink.
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Originally Posted by GP100 View Post
Did the line actually break or just the lead within the line? If the jacket is intact you should be good, the lead isn't for strength, its just to get the line to sink.
The line breaks after a few cranks of the reel. And it breaks in the rod. Lost everything. The LC was Suffix - either 27 or 35 lb test.
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Sounds like you need new leadcore line. I use light set ups (shimano tekota's 600) with 27 lb leadcore with some backing. I have been thinking recently to try braid with either in line sinkers or the keel system from T man. Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by CapeLife View Post
The line breaks after a few cranks of the reel. And it breaks in the rod. Lost everything. The LC was Suffix - either 27 or 35 lb test.
Sounds like bad guide. Run a q-tip around your guides and check for burrs.
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