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Old 10-02-2020, 09:48 PM
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I was reading some posts in an offshore Facebook group I'm in this afternoon, and I saw a post warning that some boats at Montauk were hit last night by thieves who stole offshore rods and reels. Boats at Gurney's (Montauk Yacht Club), Montauk Anglers' Club (Gone Fishing), and Montauk Lake Club were the victims. Well, my heart skipped since I'm at the Lake Club. So in the late afternoon, I called my dockmaster, and asked him if any boats were hit at our marina. He said he didn't think so. I then asked about my boat. He said he'd been on my boat earlier that day to adjust some lines because of the wind shift, and there were no rods to be seen. That wasn't good, because when I left the boat yesterday evening, I foolishly left 5 rods in the rocket launcher in the cockpit. Three were spinners and two were small Fin Nor conventionals that I had "won" at the IGFA auction two years ago. Now some scumbag has them.

I'm heading back to Montauk in the morning to fish, and hopefully nothing else has been taken. Fortunately, earlier in the week, my son had his buddies from a big sportie come by and take off all my offshore rods and reels, including our LP, because they're doing him a favor and running them down to Florida since I'm not taking my boat down to Miami this winter. My son had been living on my boat this Summer after running it up for me from Florida in July, so he had a lot of the offshore gear in the rocket launchers when he was around. Obviously, that's no longer do-able with these crooks around. Sadly, dirtbags will steal our gear even in our safe haven marinas in Montauk. Word on the street is that these scumbags came in by boat last night to commit their thefts. East Hampton detectives are on the case, and I hope they find the perps. But for me, this is another unfortunate lesson learned. Some of the other boats were hit really hard, with 80s, 50s, and electric reels stolen.
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That’s just awful, and a feeling that’s only understood once you’ve gone through it. Hopefully they catch these dirt balls. See if your son can keep an eye on all the usual outlets Craigslist, FB Marketplace & Offerup.
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Westlake Marina was hit a month ago by this guy driving this car, same MO

Old 10-03-2020, 09:28 AM
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That's awful. Seeing the sh!thead also got to Westlake bother me as it =is my preferred marina out there. All thieves should be shot.
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Originally Posted by C3D View Post
That's awful. Seeing the sh!thead also got to Westlake bother me as it =is my preferred marina out there. All thieves should be shot.
yup or off with their hands
Old 10-03-2020, 10:55 AM
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They got some boats at Montauk Anglers club. Took six rods from a friends boat.If your rods were out they were gone.
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Damn guys sorry to hear

I would implore your marinas to get some good cameras and better security

I dont leave anything out any more that I dont mind being stolen and I have cameras and a K9 on my boat

I started taking it seriously when I heard some thieves were hitting boats in Block Island
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Damn guys sorry to hear

I would implore your marinas to get some good cameras and better security

I dont leave anything out any more that I dont mind being stolen and I have cameras and a K9 on my boat

I started taking it seriously when I heard some thieves were hitting boats in Block Island
You leave a dog on your boat to protect from thieves?
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Just as a quick reminder, it is legal in Montauk to shoot a burglar on your boat (if your boat has living cabins) if you reasonably believe it to be necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of a burglary.
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Shoot first , ask questions later !
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Originally Posted by C3D View Post
Just as a quick reminder, it is legal in Montauk to shoot a burglar on your boat (if your boat has living cabins) if you reasonably believe it to be necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of a burglary.
NY state allows the killing of a person committing a burglarly, even if your life isn't in danger? That's one of the last states I would think would allow it.
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Originally Posted by C3D View Post
Just as a quick reminder, it is legal in Montauk to shoot a burglar on your boat (if your boat has living cabins) if you reasonably believe it to be necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of a burglary.
Not sure if you are trying to be funny but that is total Bullshit.
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Originally Posted by FishnDive View Post
NY state allows the killing of a person committing a burglarly, even if your life isn't in danger? That's one of the last states I would think would allow it.
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NO it doesn't what he posted is total Bullshit and dangerous.
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Originally Posted by C3D View Post
Just as a quick reminder, it is legal in Montauk to shoot a burglar on your boat (if your boat has living cabins) if you reasonably believe it to be necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of a burglary.
Good luck with that.
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What I posted is 100% the law of NYS.

N.Y. Penal Law § 35.20(3):
A person in possession or control of, or licensed or privileged to be in, a dwelling or an occupied building, who reasonably believes that another person is committing or attempting to commit a burglary of such dwelling or building, may use deadly physical force upon such other person when he or she reasonably believes such to be necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of such burglary.
The definition of a "building" in the section above is defined by cross-reference to N.Y. Penal Law § 140.00(2), and includes boats:

. . . in addition to its ordinary meaning, ["Building"] includes any . . . vehicle or watercraft used for overnight lodging of persons . . . (emphasis added)
Nonetheless I would not recommend taking advantage of this section of the Penal Law.

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I can’t believe nobody has stumbled upon these maggots in the act. Marinas are quiet at night but certainly not empty.

I hope they climb aboard the wrong boat with a crew that dgaf and they work him/them over fierce.
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Originally Posted by C3D View Post
What I posted is 100% the law of NYS.

N.Y. Penal Law § 35.20(3):
The definition of a "building" in the section above is defined by cross-reference to N.Y. Penal Law § 140.00(2), and includes boats:



Nonetheless I would not recommend taking advantage of this section of the Penal Law.
Wrong !!!!!
Deadly force can only be used if you or some else's life is in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm .
Cuomo has changed the law stating you must make every effort to retreat and flee the premise anyway possible.

Who would shoot/kill someone over a fishing rod ? You would be pending tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees and have possible prison time hanging over your head and then you would have to deal with the fact that you took someone's life for the rest of your life.

I hate thieves !!

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Originally Posted by Jecaro View Post
Wrong !!!!!
Deadly force can only be used if you or some else's life is in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm .
Cuomo has changed the law stating you must make every effort to retreat and flee the premise anyway possible.

Who would shoot/kill someone over a fishing rod ? You would be pending tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees and have possible prison time hanging over your head and then you would have to deal with the fact that you took someone's life for the rest of your life.

I hate thieves !!
Jecaro is 100% correct and C3D incorrect regarding current NYS law. Forgetting the law for a moment, do you honestly think NYS is going to put your property above some criminals life, especially in the current social climate? C3D your lawyer bills will be far greater than the cost of your gear even if you are not guilty. Unfortunately, better security camera location, coverage and footage is the only real solution. For consideration, there was a few boat burglaries in my area a year ago. These perps broke into the locked cabins to steal the gear and in one boat vandalized the interior too. Insult to injury. One can only hope they slip, fall, hit their head and drown (like Natalie Wood).
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In NY if the criminal slipped and drowned the family would sue and probably make millions.....that's how screwed up NY State law is.
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Originally Posted by IMPLiberty View Post
You leave a dog on your boat to protect from thieves?
We spend a lot of time on the boat so k9 is typically aboard but not during winter. During winter we still have at least one staff person present monitoring things and I add extra cameras exterior to the shrink wrap. But I really don't use a k9 to protect my boat. Everything stays locked up when we aren't aboard and cameras are running. Cameras are not an active defense though, only will hopefully capture the person committing the crime.

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