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Old 09-29-2020, 06:09 PM
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Is there a recommended scenario transiting the inlet without the cresting waves that are on top of each other? I've been away from this body of water for 2 years but it was never this bad before. I was told to avoid low tide but last weekend I went out 2 hours before low tide and had crappy conditions. Any constructive advise is welcome.
Old 09-29-2020, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankjoh5 View Post
Is there a recommended scenario transiting the inlet without the cresting waves that are on top of each other? I've been away from this body of water for 2 years but it was never this bad before. I was told to avoid low tide but last weekend I went out 2 hours before low tide and had crappy conditions. Any constructive advise is welcome.
Going out these days I just stay in the channel and turn north a couple of hundred yards after the post. I used to go up the south side and cut across to quarter the waves at the mouth but I tapped bottom on a low tide a bit after turning past the lighthouse which is why I keep to the channel now. Same coming in. I come in from the north and turn in a couple of hundred yards offshore of the post.
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I've always stayed to the northern side of the inlet and turn north just past the "true" end of the jetty. It's worse that before to me.
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There really isnt a better option. You have all the shoals to the south and then there is that spot of shoaling that sometimes has breaking waves and goes to about 8ft deep a quarter mile or so east of the post on the north side and all that makes it usually tough staying in between the cans once you clear the jettys so the best bet is make that turn to the north and get away from it. Unless its a really calm day I even do that if I plan to go south.
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Every trip is different, I stay to the North side as well and take my time always going out and in. Always an interesting ride for sure! Stay safe,
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Last weekend was strong NE winds, that always makes the inlet sporty. My advise would be soon as you get past the monument turn North and any tide against wind will make the submerged jetty section a little bumpy.
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Originally Posted by GiantFan13 View Post
Last weekend was strong NE winds, that always makes the inlet sporty. My advise would be soon as you get past the monument turn North and any tide against wind will make the submerged jetty section a little bumpy.
Thanks. It seems like every time I transited the inlet this summer, there were difficult conditions. I'll try to be mindful of the wind direction.
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Thank the beach replenishment projects along the coast for the shoaling in the inlet, causing the conditions you speak of. E-NE swell and outgoing tide make it way worse

Slack tide would be your best bet
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Is there hope that the current will eventually disperse the sand creating the shoaling?
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Most likely no, I can only see it getting worse, the entire inlet is getting shallow, especially in the middle
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Barnegat Inlet, an E ticket ride on a good day.
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I've seen guys on little more than a skiff fishing out at the tires. Unless they came out of Pt Pleasant, I can't imagine them running through Barnegat.
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This past Monday 9/28, I had a horrible experience, if not my worst boating experience, leaving the Barnegat inlet. I've spent the last few days digging up info on the inlet, trying to determine if what I did wrong, if the conditions were unusually snotty, or if what I experienced is pretty much the norm. I hope is wasn't since I really do not want to experience that again.

In my "research" I found this from the Army Corp or Engineers dated March 2020
https://www.nap.usace.army.mil/Missi...arnegat-inlet/

I saw some dredging barges by the anchorage area of Oyster Creek. According to the picture, it looks like they are dredging the inlet along the south jetty.

Is this old news and already been done or a coming attraction? It seems the majority of advice is to hug the North.

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MON: S winds 10 to 15 kt with gusts up to 20 kt. Seas 3 to 4 ft. Patchy drizzle early in the morning. Patchy fog early in the morning. Swell mainly from the SE with a dominant period of 7 seconds.

That doesn't look like a great forcast. Also what was the time? High was around 6am at the CG station.
Some days it just sucks getting in or out.

The inlet is usually dredged every year or 2 by the Currituck. It even does OCC occasionally. I'm not sure if they did it this year as I didn't get outside much. This dredge doesn't use the stuff you see staged. It is standalone and uses drag arms to pump the sand into the hopper. It runs outside, not far enough IMO, opens the keel and dumps the hopper.
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I agree that doesn't look like a good forecast, and I'm hoping the following does not come across as arrogant. I'm also trying to keep this short and appreciate your help. I'm not certain those were the conditions we were in.

I think we hit the inlet at about 10am, with low tide there being about 12:30pm. I left Manahawkin at 9am; this was more of a test trip. There was virtually no wind in Manahawkin. The bay, OCC and beginning of inlet was virtually flat. I was going slow at close to no-wake speed, close to the north jetty. It was a little windy towards the end of that section of the inlet, but nothing notably alarming. We didn't see any breaking waves as we approached the ocean.

As soon as we cleared the unsubmerged part of jetty, all hell broke loose and I found us getting beaten by 5 or 6 large breaking waves. We were in a 28 ft CC and I seriously thought I might lose the boat from the steep pitch. I came very close to stuffing the bow in one of the troughs. I powered up as need to beat the breaking of the waves, but nothing excessive. I did slam twice. It was just me and my son next to me; had anyone been in the bow, they would have been thrown.

I held a course parallel to the jetty to the second set of floating cans and it was pretty easy to turn around, stop, then putt back a short ways to determine that my nerves were shot and I didn't feel like being in the ocean for a few hours in 2-3's knowing I might have to go through that again.

Surfing in was much less nerve-wracking.

The NOAA data buoy center for BI station 44091 shows wave height of 3.3 , Dominate 7 sec, Avg 5 sec period from the SE for the time in question. Unfortunately it doesn't give wind info.

I don't know if hit the inlet at an unusually rough time; or conditions were worse then I perceived them to be; or I took it to slow. Hopefully that just isn't the way it is with this inlet. I want to figure it out to be properly prepared the next time.

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BI can be nasty but once you get used to it, it’s fairly easy to handle.

Going out I stay on the North side of the inlet. you can run the South but I generally don’t do that. Stay out of the middle as there is a shoal that will break on a low tide with a decent swell. Once out if I’m going North you can turn after the submerged jetty as tight to the marker as you want. Going South you need to go a fair bit East before turning South is there is another bar that gets shallow just South of the inlet.

Coming in I do the opposite. If it’s nasty hang a little outside the inlet and find a set to go in with. Try and stay on the back of waves. I see tons of people surfing down the face of waves not realizing how potentially unsafe that is. If you have a deeper entry you can get some serious bow steer doing that.

If you run that inlet a lot I suggest going out when it’s nasty and get used to it. Having that experience will be beneficial if you get caught out. Going out is always easier then coming in.
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Originally Posted by Polapea View Post
Going out is always easier then coming in.
That's been my experience. Maybe part is psychological. If it looks too nasty going out, I can turn around. If coming in, choices are limited.
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Originally Posted by chrisjb View Post
II think we hit the inlet at about 10am, with low tide there being about 12:30pm.
So the tide was outgoing and you were in a waves against tide situation, not the best time. You also had 15-20 mph wind from SSE which didn't help.

But it also might be that you were just unlucky and caught a unusual set right in the inlet, maybe a wake from a big ship that passed by. You are saying that other than this set the waves were reasonable.

Also, if you want wind conditions right by the inlet, there's a weather station on the Sedge Islands: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNJWARET3/

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Originally Posted by Polapea View Post
BI can be nasty but once you get used to it, it’s fairly easy to handle.

If it’s nasty hang a little outside the inlet and find a set to go in with. Try and stay on the back of waves. I see tons of people surfing down the face of waves not realizing how potentially unsafe that is. If you have a deeper entry you can get some serious bow steer doing that.

If you run that inlet a lot I suggest going out when it’s nasty and get used to it. Having that experience will be beneficial if you get caught out. Going out is always easier then coming in.
I agree with staying on the backside. IMO, being on the front side, you are just hoping for the best in a bad situation.
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So the tide was outgoing and you were in a waves against tide situation, not the best time. You also had 15-20 mph wind from SSE which didn't help.

But it also might be that you were just unlucky and caught a unusual set right in the inlet, maybe a wake from a big ship that passed by. You are saying that other than this set the waves were reasonable.

Also, if you want wind conditions right by the inlet, there's a weather station on the Sedge Islands: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNJWARET3/
I was thinking that the tide current wasn't much at that time, so that could be one of my mistakes, especially adding the wind effect to it.

I don't think it was wake related since there were no other boats going in or out at the time. I attributed the lack of traffic to day and time versus conditions.

Thanks for the link. I didn't come across that one yet. Besides the Noaa stuff and their near shore wave predictions, I've been using windguru, windy, wisuki and weatherbug. I just added buoyweather. With all that, you would think I could get it right.

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