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Old 08-27-2020, 07:58 PM
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Hello, I am new here and would love to get a pointer or two. It all started 4 years ago when moving in to a house on the Hackensack River (NJ) and seeing kayaker on the water. That led to an inflatable Hobie tandem, which was replaced by a Hobie tandem island (a sail trimaran) which than turned to a 24' Yamaha 242 LS bow rider jet boat. I just sold the 242 after 2 years and prior to a foot surgery following a car accident. In the last several Weekes I obsessively tore up the net looking for a cruising yacht to fit the bill. Between me and my girl we have 5 children (19 to 4) and I am looking for a condo on the water.

Here is what I am looking for:
40 to 50 feet. 2 diesel motors. 2 state rooms and preferably 2 heads. Fly bridge with large sitting area. Range (can I cruise to the Caribbeans with it?). Air conditioning, refrigerator/s, etc. Economic cruise, reliability, and a better ability to deal with rough sea for this boat class. The budget was between 100 to 200k but I started to look up to 300k.

With this in mind, I am looking into Carver 44 family. Any suggestion on another vessel? Know issues? You guys have the experience, and experience is gold. Thanks!

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Old 08-28-2020, 05:33 AM
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"Well. That escalated rather quickly"
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Old 08-28-2020, 05:40 AM
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Stretch the budget and get the Henriques cruiser
Old 08-28-2020, 05:43 AM
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Some like 2 engines, some see it as 2X the maintenance.
How fast do you want to go?

Lot of boats for sale
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You may want to consider my boat which is for sale: 400 Wellcraft-Riviera Flybridge - Falmouth MA - $155,000.

Still a lot of good boating left this summer. I could include dock space for the remainder of the season. Please PM me if you are interested. Or I can be reached at 1-617-901-5910.

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Old 08-28-2020, 09:46 AM
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get a trawler type , thats best space and budget fitting, easy on fuel an plenty of room cruising in a carver isnt gonna be as comfortable and will cost way more check out a grand banks ,or defever , maybe a fleming inmy opinion
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What ever happened to 2 foot itis?
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Carver Voyager 530 Pilot House (just not sure about how rough of seas you are anticipating).
Old 08-29-2020, 04:55 AM
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Agree.....you're in Trawler (maybe "fast" Trawler) territory, both for the room they offer and in your price range. I'd stay away from the Carver/Silverton/Sea Ray category of cruisers. You'll need to do some reading, asking questions and looking. Join Trawler Forum.

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Thanks for the replies. I did look at trawlers. For the most part, they are too slow for me. I am hoping to get 20-25 knots cruising speed. Why would you stay away from Carver, Silverto, etc. Category?
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theres plenty of trawlers that get those or close to those numbers , carvers are horrible riding boats and tough to handle around a dock , catch wind , sea rays are popular , I dont know why but must be something to it , silverton was a cheaply made boat basiclly like carver , prestige has now taken that mantle in the 300s you may be able to find a princess which is a quality boat maaybe a chris craft ..... but id be looking for a defever or grand banks if I where you , those can cruise at 18knts top out at 22knts for the trade id buy the slow boat ...... I know peope with carvers ,seems they rarely leave the dock ,and never go anywhere , silvertons and sea ray would be ahead if I only had those to choose , but running to fl,or bahamas ,no way ,,,,, choose wisely my friend , your families life depends on it
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I think you would do better posting on the trawler forum.
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I'd go for the Grand Banks Europa to check those boxes
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I see Carver boats are not the most popular among you sea goers. If seaworthiness or operation in less than ideal conditions is a concern in a boat, I know I will regret this relationship. It's just that a trawler is too slow, or out of my financial range. I want that mid 20's cruising speed on a modern boat that can take a bitting. Last year my wife, my 3 years old daughter and myself got caught in a storm that materialized in an instant. Visibility dropped to nothing and I was fighting wind and waves in horizontal rain. All of this was on a 24' bow rider. I know I will appreciate a capable vessel. What about Marquis or Azimut?

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Originally Posted by Hezi View Post
I see Carver boats are not the most popular among you sea goers. If seaworthiness or operation in less than ideal conditions is a concern in a boat, I know I will regret this relationship. It's just that a trawler is too slow, or out of my financial range. I want that mid 20's cruising speed on a modern boat that can take a bitting. Last year my wife, my 3 years old daughter and myself got caught in a storm that materialized in an instant. Visibility dropped to nothing and I was fighting wind and waves in horizontal rain. All of this was on a 24' bow rider. I know I will appreciate a capable vessel. What about Marquis or Azimut?
a storm doesnt materialize , you left yourself vulnerable , watch the sky .... as far as boats , if you dont like a trawler, my opinion is you havent been on one ,,, marquis is best of the choice you gave ,sea ray flybridge may be you answer
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a storm doesnt materialize , you left yourself vulnerable , watch the sky .... as far as boats , if you dont like a trawler, my opinion is you havent been on one ,,, marquis is best of the choice you gave ,sea ray flybridge may be you answer
Eyes were opened and looking everywhere sky, weather apps, you name it. The storm materialized in an instant and took a crap on us. You right, I left myself vulnerable and learned my lesson. I did take comfort in the 2nd 1100gph bilge pump I installed on y boat. Luckily, I let no wave break over the boat.
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glad your safe .... hey have you looked at any of the princesses? might be wat ur lookin for, look hard you may find in your range , increase budget a bit
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OP: If you're in that price range then get a good broker. He will find you what you want and help a lot in the purchase of a bigger boat. Also the buyer doesn't pay anything. Just like in RE, the seller foots the commission bill so it's a no brainer to use one.

Im also a relatively new boater (5 years or so) and gonna be looking to buy in the 50 foot range next spring and will most definitely find a buyers agent. There's a lot of steps involved in buying a bigger boat. Can one go it alone? Yes, of course. But it never hurts having a good advocate. Key word....Good. Lol. Some brokers are also clowns.

Mark101: Silvertons are cheaply made?? Kind of a blanket statement IMO. Lol. And Im not a fanboy just because I owned one. If it was cheaply made then I'd have no problem saying that. But I didnt find any cheaply made items or construction areas that were obvious on my 2005 motoryacht. It wasn't a Nordhavn or a Fleming but not a piece of crap either. 😊

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The budget was between 100 to 200k but I started to look up to 300k.
What is your annual budget after purchase for fuel, maintenance, and repairs?
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Originally Posted by South of Heaven View Post
OP: If you're in that price range then get a good broker. He will find you what you want and help a lot in the purchase of a bigger boat. Also the buyer doesn't pay anything. Just like in RE, the seller foots the commission bill so it's a no brainer to use one.

Im also a relatively new boater (5 years or so) and gonna be looking to buy in the 50 foot range next spring and will most definitely find a buyers agent. There's a lot of steps involved in buying a bigger boat. Can one go it alone? Yes, of course. But it never hurts having a good advocate. Key word....Good. Lol. Some brokers are also clowns.

Mark101: Silvertons are cheaply made?? Kind of a blanket statement IMO. Lol. And Im not a fanboy just because I owned one. If it was cheaply made then I'd have no problem saying that. But I didnt find any cheaply made items or construction areas that were obvious. It wasn't a Nordhavn or a Fleming but not a piece of crap either. 😊
I may be a newbie in boating world, but I've been doing business long enough to see a conflict of interest here. Buyer is paying nothing is not true. First, your broker will cut his coupon only if you buy the boat. Could he be looking the other way just for the deal to happen? The man got to eat... 2nd, now that the buyer need to pay a broker, you have less room for price negotiation. I think today, most of the information regarding boat for sale, is available for all. I rather pay for a good surveyer to advise and check a boat for me. In real estate, I manage to compete on 2 deals and won just because I had no broker representing me and the seller broker could keep 100% commission instead of splitting it with my competitor broker.

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