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Old 05-20-2020, 02:25 PM
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I just read that commonwealth ramps are to be used only by vehicles registered in MA.
The Harwich harbor master reads this as the Saquatucket and Allen’s ramps as they were rebuilt with state money.
Luckily I have a private ramp to use, but if not as a tax payer in town I would be pissed.
BTW- my boats are registered in MA

Harbormaster also mentioned they were waiving 30 day use requirement for moorings.
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Wow! Did not know that.
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I've never heard that. What is your source?
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Think it’s similar to ME’s guidelines and not boat reg but vehicle reg. I live a mile from the ME boarder and a few from the mass boarder and can’t use either ramps cause my truck has N.H. plates. Similar in N.H., if the truck/vehicle has out of state plates you can’t (Or shouldn’t depending on ramp), use ramps right now. It’s an effort to enforce the out of state quarantine “guidelines” for 14 days. Blows my mind though cause I can go to a packed grocery store over the border one way or the other but open air boat ramps I’ll get a ticket if my trucks there. Guess that’s the way it’ll be for a bit though.
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Originally Posted by gf View Post
I've never heard that. What is your source?
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Old 05-21-2020, 03:26 AM
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So I have the "typical" ME plates on my trailer, but boat and tow vehicle both MA.

Wonder how the launch master would read into that? B-)
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We launched last Saturday down in the Cape with NH plates and no one was checking.
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Those saquatucket guys are A-holes. I understand you need to buy a permit to have fish offloaded there during tuna season.
Your spending money in the state that makes you a taxpayer.

Old 05-21-2020, 07:13 AM
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Mass boats can't launch in R.I.maybe its a reprisal type of thing! Pretty stupid in my opinion in both states!
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I wish these rules of outter staters not using launches were reciprocal. If MA wants us out NH should keep them out too.
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hopefully it stays that way through commercial bass season!
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As the population density on the Cape continues it's mad spiral competition for the available resources will only increase. If you think Harwich is unreasonable, take a ride over to Chatham and see what's up with launching your boat and parking your trailer over there.
Personally, I'd like to see year round full time residents of the town of Harwich get priority access and parking @ Saquatucket. We actually spend our money here too, in fact......all of it.
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only a ma reg’d vehicle (truck AND trailer) can launch a rec boat at a MA sw ramp. how does that really make sense ? and the fine print actually says municipality managed ramps have “discretion”. use should clearly be based on home ownership like a beach sticker.

it should not matter where your vehicle is registered. there’s more risk with a random MA registered vehicle coming for the day from another part of the state than a part time homeowner that’s been here.

what if the town manager’s truck broke down and he got a loaner or a rental with an AZ plate.... not gonna let them use the ramp ???

you pay even just real estate taxes - you should be able to use the ramp if its in your town. show me the boat, truck, and trailer registered in your name - it doesn’t matter what state - that’s irrelevant - give me a launch permit or give me a refund cheque for my real estate taxes.
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Like I said, if I didn't have a private ramp to use I would be raising hell about this in Harwich.
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Strange, I spoke with them yesterday and reserved transient in July. I am from NJ. No issues using the ramp by then they said.
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Interesting, the Saq ramp had been closed to out-of town charter boats, but if they argue State funds its gonna be hard to keep a MA charter boat out. Cant play it both ways
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actual MA guidelines:

“Coastal Boat Ramps:
 For commercial, state and municipal uses, coastal boat ramps will remain open.
 For recreational use, coastal boat ramps managed by the Commonwealth
of Massachusetts remain open for use by boats being launched by vehicles
registered in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
 All other coastal boat ramps currently managed by municipalities
remain open for recreational use subject to the discretion of the city or town.”

At the Pamet, the town of Truro is saying “MA vehicles only” (period)... no ifs, and or buts. Just because our tow vehicle doesn’t have MA plates - and we have had a BALL IN THE HARBOR for 40 years - we can’t use the ramp to launch the boat??? To pull the boat to go fill up with gas ($2 at the gas station in town vs $4 (!) at the nearest gas dock in P Town). That’s insane.

And - the guidelines CLEARLY say MA vehicles if “MANAGED BY THE COMMONWEALTH ! ALL OTHER MANAGED BY MUNICIPALITIES SUBJECT TO DISCRETION OF THE TOWN”. The Pamet harbormaster works for the TOWN - not the state. Its 100% up to the town and they needs to allow truro homeowners to use the ramp with their vehicles registered TO THEM no matter what state that is or start cutting real estate tax refund checks.
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I thought they closed the bridges anyway
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Oh the suffering of the people from ny nj ct, cry me a river, stay home
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Oh the suffering of the people from ny nj ct, cry me a river, stay home
its not suffering - its about rights, the constitution - simple things that i guess you never learned all isolated on “your side of the canal”. i’m guessing you were the one that started the “close the bridges!” petition... great idea til you run out of supplies - or anyone needed to get OFF the cape for an emergency.

this is about community respecting self quarantined homeowners that pay taxes to the town having the right to use the ramp in that town - being denied only because their tow vehicle doesn’t have a MA plate ? Their boat is registered in MA - even the trailer.

lets say your the Town Manager. Your truck breaks down and you have to rent a loaner to pull your boat. BUT - the loaner has an AZ plate. You’re not gonna let the Town Manager use the ramp?

i bet your best buddy comes back and forth from somewhere else in MA. but, because he’s from
MA it doesn’t matter if he goes back and forth every weekend ? that’s a really great understanding of how things spread.

at least part time residents - if from out of state - are respectful enough to the local community to actually self quarantine - at least all then ones i’ve seen. they are not going back and forth. its the weekenders from boston and day trippers that are the only real risk to the cape.

please. get real.

also - that great attitude is gonna work real well for you come September when your October mortgage payment is coming due. if there’s no part time residents out here, the Cape’s economy will be decimated. who are you gonna ask for help then (?).

trust me, how you treat people now and weather or not you do the right thing will be remembered.
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