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Old 01-13-2020, 06:27 PM
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Default Survey & Sea Trial Mid Winter?

I've got a boat for sale.

It's shrink wrapped with a zip door.

All systems are pickled. It's got twin outboards. The wheels are off. The batteries are on blocks in my basement.

The cushions are stowed at home too. You get the idea.

It's the middle of Winter and the prospective buyer says "I want the boat but I want it surveyed first."

What would you as the seller do?

I've got many ideas floating around in my head but want to hear from you guys.
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Guy wants to survey it . What’s the question?
Do you want to sell it? If he seems serious that and sea trials should be expected .
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In january? What if he is a tire kicker? Then he is stuck with a boat re-comissioned sitting out in the middle of winter. I wouldnt do it.
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Contract and a down stroke to survey on hard. Sea trials in spring. That's what I would expect for a normal deal. If he wants to splash a winterized boat the cost is on him.
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Non refundable deposit equal to the cost for the marina to re-winterize EVERYTHING that was done to winterize it the first time. If he buys the boat that $$$ becomes a deposit towards the purchase price. (if he wants it re-winterized then that's on him). ALL of this gets put in writing on a signed contract.
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Originally Posted by t500hps View Post
Non refundable deposit equal to the cost for the marina to re-winterize EVERYTHING that was done to winterize it the first time. If he buys the boat that $$$ becomes a deposit towards the purchase price. (if he wants it re-winterized then that's on him). ALL of this gets put in writing on a signed contract.
This is what I did when I sold my last boat and seems pretty standard for the brokers. This way they have to pay if they want the boat to get splashed and run. They can choose what to do if they accept the boat but if they don't it must be returned to the condition pre-survey.
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We bought our current boat 2 winters ago. The seller listed the boat around February 1st and I was the first caller to set up a scheduling see it several days later. The boat was wrapped, winterized, and blocked in by no less than 3 other boats in the marina where she was stored. We purchased the boat on the spot leaving a $1000. deposit pending a sea trial come spring when she was able to be launched. No survey was performed, just my self, my son, and a good boat owning friend looking things over. The boat was launched first or second week in April and we took it for a sea trial. Boat ran good, systems checked out, so we paid the owner the rest of his money and became the new owner.
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too late now but it's always best to take video of it running before you lay it up. that can ease a buyer's mind as to the engines. easier to make a early deal. I just bought a boat like this last week.
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Originally Posted by Bsully24 View Post
We bought our current boat 2 winters ago. The seller listed the boat around February 1st and I was the first caller to set up a scheduling see it several days later. The boat was wrapped, winterized, and blocked in by no less than 3 other boats in the marina where she was stored. We purchased the boat on the spot leaving a $1000. deposit pending a sea trial come spring when she was able to be launched. No survey was performed, just my self, my son, and a good boat owning friend looking things over. The boat was launched first or second week in April and we took it for a sea trial. Boat ran good, systems checked out, so we paid the owner the rest of his money and became the new owner.
I can agree with this although I think it depends on the sale price. I sold a 25' Mako which went through a similar process and was an easy sale but if it was a $100,000 plus boat, I wouldn't complete a sale without a full survey and seatrial.
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I was just on both ends the past winter.

For the purchase I gave a deposit and a contract to buy the boat in the spring pending a sea trial.

For the sale, the buyer paid my marina to get the boat ready for the sea trial. They were then required to give a deposit for the complete cost to re-winterize the boat if they decided not to purchase it.
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Really only a few options.

1. Work out a deal with the guy to get it sea trialed in the spring.

2. If he just wants to see the motors run, why not adjust the shrinkwrap and just start them? Outboards shouldnt be shrinwrapped anyway and theres really nothing to do winterizing an outboard.

3. Don't advertise in the winter.
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I would be as accommodating as possible, as long as it isn't costing me dollars out of my pocket. You never know how long until the next buyer comes along.

As other have said, if the buyer wants to spend his nickels, then that is on him. I would make sure that he fully understands all costs are born by and paid by him (up front), regardless of what might be "found" during the survey and sea trial. I would use wording that separates the "deposit" from the "costs" to ready the boat launch/haul and re-winterize.

Ditto for ensuring that he can close from the financial perspective.
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Standard procedure: buyer pays all expenses to inspect/survey/sea trial the boat and return it to the condition it was in. I would take a deposit up front with a P&S agreement indicating part is non-refundable even if the boat is rejected to cover those expenses.
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Make sure your insurance covers you if you run the boat in the winter. Some don't.
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Originally Posted by jrmboat View Post
Make sure your insurance covers you if you run the boat in the winter. Some don't.
very good advice!
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When I purchased the Eastern in the month of January I put down a deposit and was responsible for the cost of launch, haul and re-winterize in addition to the survey and captain (broker's insurance called for this) for the sea trail. The boat was not wrapped at the time. We did the sea trail on a 22 degree January day when it was blowing 20. Brrrr... but we did find out that the cabin heater worked very well :-) I decided to purchase so they re-winterized it in the water in CT. I brought it up to MA in the spring.
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Quick question and no association with this transaction. A deposit sounds good, but what if the seller is looking at another boat? It would suck to miss out on the “next” boat due to lack of funds. Maybe that factors into the sea trial.
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Unless the guy has a real hard on for the boat why sea trial now and then spend the coin and time to re-winterize?

Why not look it over if you like it put down a deposit then schedule an inspection for first week of March and take the boat then total waste of money to winterize again?
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There’s a reason boats sold in the winter typically command a lower price. Inconvenience.
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Did a survey and seatrial yesterday, though our boat was much more simple to winterize. Buyer drove away with it, it saved us not a small sum of money in storage and wrapping fees.

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