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Old 01-07-2020, 11:21 PM
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I finally have a mooring in a nice harbor on the south shore and I'll be needing everything but the block. Assuming the water is 20ft on the high tide what should a ballpark price to have a reputable mooring guy replace everything all the way to the pendent and bouy The block is 2500 pounds which seems like a lot for my 20 foot boat but that's what's there.? Can they generally float the block or will they have to dive on it . I guess I'm just curious what the bottom line might be? I've asked around and everyone says the mooring tender is a straight up guy.
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Sounds like Scituate.

I am assuming they have to pull the old and replace with new.

Thats the way it is down there, and I would sleep better knowing everyone around you on same page.

One of my spots is the Wild West, quite a few moorings I know of haven’t been pulled in 15+ years, never mind inspected.

I think it calls for inspections by diver every two years and replacement of all chain about every 6.

Dont like it, I’m sure you find a slip for $200/foot+ and only have to wait a few seasons. I would jump on this if it was me.

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When I got my mooring in scituate I had them pull the block and replace the eyebolt along with new chain. Good piece of mind knowing what I got.
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Originally Posted by HardaGround View Post
I finally have a mooring in a nice harbor on the south shore and I'll be needing everything but the block. Assuming the water is 20ft on the high tide what should a ballpark price to have a reputable mooring guy replace everything all the way to the pendent and bouy The block is 2500 pounds which seems like a lot for my 20 foot boat but that's what's there.? Can they generally float the block or will they have to dive on it . I guess I'm just curious what the bottom line might be? I've asked around and everyone says the mooring tender is a straight up guy.
You need to get local estimates. Some areas you have a short list to pick from either because the mooring permit requires you to use someone approved or because there is no one else around. In some of these cases, you will find the cost to be multiples more expensive than what you would be charged elsewhere. I I have heard of some corruption regarding mooring permits, those that set/maintain them, etc. Us guessing what it may cost for you without knowing the location is probably useless for you.
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$500
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You need to get local estimates. Some areas you have a short list to pick from either because the mooring permit requires you to use someone approved or because there is no one else around. In some of these cases, you will find the cost to be multiples more expensive than what you would be charged elsewhere. I I have heard of some corruption regarding mooring permits, those that set/maintain them, etc. Us guessing what it may cost for you without knowing the location is probably useless for you.
so the short answer is , You don't know
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I had one set in midcoast Maine for 1600. That was 2500 pound block, bottom chain, top chain and 1' line to ball. 25 foot depth at high
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$1,750 in Darien harbor for all new. It was 1,500 lbs, included some fancy mooring lines. Pulled every three years. They also do annual maintenance, winter stick, inspection, paint ball and pennant for $150. Only one guy in town and he is great.
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No response. I cannot help but wonder if HardAground is a boater of the sailing variety.

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$1,750 in Darien harbor for all new. It was 1,500 lbs, included some fancy mooring lines. Pulled every three years. They also do annual maintenance, winter stick, inspection, paint ball and pennant for $150. Only one guy in town and he is great.
does one really need a winter stick? i see some harbors where the moorings stay in as is and they are all perfectly fine after winter
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does one really need a winter stick? i see some harbors where the moorings stay in as is and they are all perfectly fine after winter
I think it depends on the location/severity of a particular winter. In bad winters our upper harbor can freeze over and the rise and fall of the tide with ice will work a mooring/bouy out while the upper harbor does not freeze and all is good. The winter sticks are less likely to get yanked out I think in that scenario. We've not had a long period of super cold weather the last couple of winters so we probably could have gotten away w/o winter sticks but you never know.
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Originally Posted by HardaGround View Post
Assuming the water is 20ft on the high tide what should a ballpark price to have a reputable mooring guy replace everything all the way to the pendent and bouy The block is 2500 pounds which seems like a lot for my 20 foot boat but that's what's there.?
WHAT? 2500 lbs for a 20ft boat???
If you have a official mooring then you must apply to the rules by the entity who manages the moorings and they may require standard 2500 lbs blocks.

Your boat will be fine with much smaller/lighter weight but with 5 yards of heavy chain and a raising chain to the mooring buoy.

My 34ft Venture is moored this way in the pacific in a shelered bay and the weight is a concret and rock filled barrel. Iven in a storm blowing directly in the bay it never moved a inch.
However, barrels are not the best as they may roll arround on hard bottoms, best shape is a 4 sided cone aka piramid with the exe on the wide side, you can buy them ready at WM
Here is also a very good article about building a mooring

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The winter stick is less about protecting the ball and more about eliminating unnecessary wear and tear on the chain. When they attach the winter stick, they attach a line that allows the chain to lay in the mud over the course of the winter. You'd be surprised how much wear 16K lbs puts on the chain over the course of a season. I have to have all the shackles replaced every 3 years. Would this same type of wear occur if they left the ball n place - no. But, for $150 are you really not going to worry about it. Plus when they pull the gear, it all gets cleaned and painted.
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Originally Posted by salty_dog View Post
The winter stick is less about protecting the ball and more about eliminating unnecessary wear and tear on the chain. When they attach the winter stick, they attach a line that allows the chain to lay in the mud over the course of the winter. You'd be surprised how much wear 16K lbs puts on the chain over the course of a season. I have to have all the shackles replaced every 3 years. Would this same type of wear occur if they left the ball n place - no. But, for $150 are you really not going to worry about it. Plus when they pull the gear, it all gets cleaned and painted.
i understand wear when there is a boat on the chain but when there is no boat on a chain i dont see how the chain is experiencing any significant wear over the winter
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The winter stick is only for the ice, in one of my clubs up a brackish river at least one moron doesn’t address his mooring each fall in anticipation of winter.

When he comes back in the spring the mooring is gone...
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1200$ for all new gear in Salem harbor
have to be inspected every year and filed with the harbor Master
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For the most part you guys are right in the ballpark of what the quote is which makes feel a lot better. The quote for a new 3500lb block, with new eye, heavy and lite chain, ball, pennant, pick up etcetera is $1650 or I can use the old block which will bring it down to $1300. Your advice makes me think I should get er done. Thanks again. You guys always give good advise even if it's not what I want to hear.
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i understand wear when there is a boat on the chain but when there is no boat on a chain i dont see how the chain is experiencing any significant wear over the winter
read up on accelerated corrosion.
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so the short answer is , You don't know
Of course not.

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