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My boat is coming up for sale...getting ready to buy.

Old 10-09-2019, 12:29 PM
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Default My boat is coming up for sale...getting ready to buy.

I hope this ok to post here - since this is the Northeast forum and the posting is timely, i.e. for a possible fall sale.

I just listed my boat for sale in the THT Boats For Sale forum: 400 Wellcraft-Riviera Flybridge priced for fall sale! $167,500.

This boat has been very good to us and can be very good to a new owner too.

I'm trying to find something a bit newer and bigger Riviera as in a 43 Riviera Open (flybridge) with IPS drives 2014 or later. If you know of one, please let me know. I heard someone in this area just brought one up from Florida for personal use.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:36 PM
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Wow, that's awesome Paul. Good luck on the sale! Exciting stuff.

Just curious, why not moving into the 50 foot range? Thats my next move.
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:40 PM
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Wow, that's awesome Paul. Good luck on the sale! Exciting stuff.

Just curious, why not moving into the 50 foot range? Thats my next move.
Good question. There are a couple factors. First our home dock can't really handle much more boat both in terms of draft and windage. Second, with the IPS drives in the new model, it opens up the state room more so you get a bunch more space anyway. This size boat (40-43 ft) is really great for a couple on weekends/vacation. Finally, financially, it is really hard to justify the extra expense. Even doing most of the work myself and having my own dock, it still costs a bunch. And for weekend recreational boating, the comparative costs/benefits just get really out of whack for me as a weekend/vacation style boater. Even just moving up a bit and getting something newer doesn't really make any financial sense but we'll do that anyway. Our current boat is pretty much fully depreciated and our dock is great for the boat. So currently, I'm really paying for repairs/maintenance. And even if I had some major repairs on the current boat, it would still be much cheaper than even depreciation on a much larger/newer boat. Boats, as we all know, are really floating compromises. It just matters which compromises make sense to each of us.

So if the boat sells great. If it doesn't sell, fine too; we'll keep using it like we did for past 15 years. If a new boat comes along (none are currently available on the east coast), fine - we'll move on it. If we sell the current boat and another boat doesn't come along right away, I'll get a bigger center console, attend to other summer projects that have been ignored for years and wait patiently for the right boat.

At least that is the way I figure it today. Tomorrow could be different.
Thanks for asking.
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Old 10-09-2019, 05:50 PM
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Good analysis. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:07 AM
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Good luck, she's beautiful!
One thing I caught "I bought the boat in 2015. We have had the boat for the past 15 seasons" It's only been 4 years since 2015 so you couldn't have had it 15 seasons
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:13 AM
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Paul - just something to think on....if you have tight draft now (I'm subject to the same curse in falmouth), i'd be super weary about IPS. I believe in the larger convertible size, Oceans were relatively shallow and had nice interior amenities. Wouldn't be my first choice for offshore, but it doesn't sound like that's the style you guys need anyways.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mrscoach View Post
Good luck, she's beautiful!
One thing I caught "I bought the boat in 2015. We have had the boat for the past 15 seasons" It's only been 4 years since 2015 so you couldn't have had it 15 seasons
Good catch. I've updated the note as it was a typo - we bought the boat in 2005.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OIReelKeeper View Post
Paul - just something to think on....if you have tight draft now (I'm subject to the same curse in falmouth), i'd be super weary about IPS. I believe in the larger convertible size, Oceans were relatively shallow and had nice interior amenities. Wouldn't be my first choice for offshore, but it doesn't sound like that's the style you guys need anyways.
Yeah I'm kind of leery of the the IPS drives in general. I'm not overly stuck on them - I would take a shaft drive if the right boat came up. Concerns are maintenance and damage if you hit something. However on balance, these seem pretty well proven. Garmin and Volvo seem to have worked out an excellent package. Having gone to a few boat shows lately - it seemed like it was all Garmin and Volvo IPS. Plus they lower the draft from 4 ft to 3.5 ft. and open up a lot of space. Ocean makes a beautiful boat of course, but we'd like to have the salon windshield glass instead of fiberglass. For our boating, we like to see the area we are in. And I don't think Ocean salon windows open and we like the fresh air. So with the Ocean, it seems like we'd be on the air conditioning a lot more but for our cape boating we almost never need it if we can open the windows and catch some breeze.

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Old 10-11-2019, 03:33 PM
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I was leery about IPS. But they are almost standard on any newer boat in the 40+ range. So I have them on my new boat and I love them. Makes docking in almost any wind (you would boat in) a non issue. I had straight shafts and no bow thrusters in my last boat...these are a world of difference. Yes, it feels like cheating. But so much more relaxing heading into the Nantucket Boat Basin with an audience and the integrated Garmin glass cockpit is great.
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Old 10-12-2019, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnut1 View Post
I was leery about IPS. But they are almost standard on any newer boat in the 40+ range. So I have them on my new boat and I love them. Makes docking in almost any wind (you would boat in) a non issue. I had straight shafts and no bow thrusters in my last boat...these are a world of difference. Yes, it feels like cheating. But so much more relaxing heading into the Nantucket Boat Basin with an audience and the integrated Garmin glass cockpit is great.
Thanks for the input - this is quite helpful. Can you say what they need for annual maintenance? can you do it yourself?

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Old 10-12-2019, 07:15 AM
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I have a 38 Luhrs with IPS600's.
I do most of my own maintenance due to not having a Volvo dealer near me.
I service the drives, Volvo says every 400 hours, I am finding that I need to service at about 300 hours. Have to haul to do the service which is a pain, I am told that the newest versions the oil can be changed from the top.
I change my props, actually quite easy. Keep a spare set with fresh Mussel Buster, change as needed. I pull them every haul to check for line, lot's of crab traps in the Keys.
Service the motors at 180 to 200 hours.
Pay Volvo to come to the boat for the 1200 service which is pretty major.
3000 hours and still going strong. Early drives had a lot of weak parts, I think I am up the F and the pods seem to be doing a lot better.
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Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
Thanks for the input - this is quite helpful. Can you say what they need for annual maintenance? can you do it yourself?

Thanks,
I am sure YOU could service them yourself, but that is beyond my skill set (really anything more than checking the oil and cleaning the strainers unfortunately I pay for). Boat in falmouth and we live in Boston during the week so when Friday rolls around I just want to on the boat. In my boat access to the pods is in the trunk separate from the access to the mains so it seems like access would be easy.

Boat will be one year old in November...the service will get done when it gets back to Florida)...and will try to remember to report back with the cost.
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