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Old 01-13-2019, 09:12 PM
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I am trying to understand the many ways to properly rig a ballyhoo. Some of the methods I have looked at on the internet look very easy. Some of the methods I have looked at look like you need at least 30 years offshore experience to be able to utilize. Help me out. I am a "newbie" to this. Point me to websites and/or videos that better explain and help me understand how to rig these "bad boys" so they will catch fish. Thank you in advance. -SW.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:31 PM
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Here is one I did showing one way to rig under an islander lure.

J Hook Rigged Ballyhoo under Blue and White Ilander ? Bluewater How To
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DestinBillMe View Post
Here is one I did showing one way to rig under an islander lure.

J Hook Rigged Ballyhoo under Blue and White Ilander ? Bluewater How To
Thanks. I know there are many more methods. Help me out please.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:56 AM
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You donít need any more methods than a j hook and a chin weighted ballyhoo. Get pin rigs. Easiest and quickest way to rig.
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:05 AM
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Good morning... for anything; naked included, the easiest and fastest will be the pin / rubber band rig... Beyond that, you can choose to customize your rigging to accommodate a specific species or fishery (i.e. DINK baits for Billfish)… but straight out of the gate the pin/band rig is super easy and mostly successful... I would suggest that you buy some baits and practice, practice, practice... Pay attention to hook position for proper placement... Tight Lines

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Old 01-14-2019, 07:02 AM
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youtube is your friend here....buy a couple dozen ballyhoo and go through the practice of thawing/prepping and rigging.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:34 AM
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Just wondering everyone is mentioning pin rigs but what about circle hooks with ringer swivels, that seems fairly easy. Is that used for only marlin or can it be used for tuna etc.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:37 AM
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Agree with above. I use pin rigs with a spring if it is behind an islander, or some other skirt. If running naked, I use a pin with a rubber band. I tried using the wire and it seemed like a pain in the A$$. I use the Calcutta crimps with the pin built in. I know you can make your own pins. I just like the ease of using the Calcutta pin crimps.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by grounder View Post
Just wondering everyone is mentioning pin rigs but what about circle hooks with ringer swivels, that seems fairly easy. Is that used for only marlin or can it be used for tuna etc.
It can be used for anything but you miss short strikes on fish like Wahoo, Kings, and sometimes other species like tuna and mahi.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:53 PM
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Pin rigs with a nose cone in front. Turn the cone until it gets tight and the Islander or Sea Witch covers the wire. The bait will last forever since it does not wash out. I have used them for centuries with excellent results. I used to hear " they will see the spring" -you have to be kidding me, it is covered by the lure!. My favorite one for not using them is 'because we have always done it this way". So did I for many years. But I grew up. Changing to the springs was the bomb...
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Originally Posted by tcannonsr View Post
Pin rigs with a nose cone in front. Turn the cone until it gets tight and the Islander or Sea Witch covers the wire. The bait will last forever since it does not wash out. I have used them for centuries with excellent results. I used to hear " they will see the spring" -you have to be kidding me, it is covered by the lure!. My favorite one for not using them is 'because we have always done it this way". So did I for many years. But I grew up. Changing to the springs was the bomb...
Can you still use the nose cone set up with naked ballys?
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:38 PM
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I usually use a rubber band when I run them naked. However, I have caught tuna on a naked with a spring. I donít know if it makes a difference.
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OP - what fish are you targeting?
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Originally Posted by claluja View Post
OP - what fish are you targeting?
Primarily tuna and and mahi.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by greenjeepcherokee View Post
Primarily tuna and and mahi.
Then you may want to consider sticking to J hook rigs at this point.

The nose cone spring approach on a pin, and egg weight, mentioned above is the most forgiving and quickest way to rig a J hook, and is a good place to start. Witch or ilander over the nose cone spring. After you master that, maybe try getting rid of the spring and using copper or monel rigging wire with the J and egg weight - it takes longer to rig but some think if done properly results in good swimming baits.

Naked circles for white marlin. But you can hook some on Js.
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Old 01-15-2019, 05:32 AM
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Ballyhoo springs are probably the easiest way to rig them. I only use them when using certain lures like a 3 or 5oz joe shutes or an illander. Smaller illanders and sea witches get the copper wire.

Also, don't buy premade pin rigs, get the stuff and learn to do it all yourself, the skillset involved comes into play with a million other things down the road.
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Old 01-15-2019, 05:39 AM
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Is there any reason NOT to use a pin rig? Iíve heard some canyon fishing guys say that fish can feel the pin and spit it out. I have no idea how they would knkw this....
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Green, yes you can. But I usually go with the copper wire on the naked ones. Sammy, this goes with my other statements above. I used to work for Ford Motor Co. The first thing you always ask is "show me the data'. I guarantee there is none; common sense would dictate that the hook is already embedded well before the pin. If they can feel the pin before the hook, they are some really talented fish...
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Originally Posted by tcannonsr View Post
Green, yes you can. But I usually go with the copper wire on the naked ones. Sammy, this goes with my other statements above. I used to work for Ford Motor Co. The first thing you always ask is "show me the data'. I guarantee there is none; common sense would dictate that the hook is already embedded well before the pin. If they can feel the pin before the hook, they are some really talented fish...
I would also argue that a big mess of copper wire wrapped all over is going to be felt as well... plus if a fish is going for a ballyhoo itís not like there is no long pointy things sticking off their nose.

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Old 01-15-2019, 05:57 AM
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Sammy, just use enough for maybe 3 or 4 wraps and cut the rest off. You won't be trolling with it, use it mostly as a pitch bait. If you wrap it tight and clean it is almost invisible, though time consuming. I will usually make a few before leaving so they are ready when we start.
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