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Old 08-08-2018, 08:02 AM
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With all of the new mud and the cases of Vibrio on the rise, I wanted to see what extra precautions any of you on the bay and Tribs use to react to any type of dermal compromise.
Meet had a man 2 years ago cut his hand on a crab trap and was dead in 24 hours. I just talked to him the day before when I bought a mattress from his shop and he delivered it personally. My family is ever so cautious and hesitant about going into the water on the upper Susq and bay. They will tune on the upper portion that has good flow though.

I started keeping Hibiclens antibacterial wash, Liquid bandage, and bring a bottle of Cipro that I always keep fresh in my Emergency pack. They are extra items I have to date check anaully for expiration but it gives me a little comfort to be a little more prepared to try and react to any cuts.

What do you all do for extra supplies in the event of cuts and scrapes?
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Hibiclens and Iso Alcohol onboard
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Hydrogen peroxide on board.
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I’ve had Vibrio twice, so I keep a lot of supplies on hand but the most important thing is time.

If you see redness or swelling, go immediately to the nearest emergency room. A few hours delay is the difference in losing limbs and a longer delay can cost you your life. With the most recent incident, my hand was double size within 2 hours, I got sliced, flushed and an all-night IV of heavy antibiotics.

Two hand surgeons who operate on a lot of watermen and chicken processors told me that Iodine is the very best disinfectant and bacteria killer.

Flush the cut with hydrogen peroxide and then pour Iodine down into the cut and keep spreading the wound and pouring it in there. Get to the hospital, do not take a detour. Goggle “Iodine for cuts.”

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Great thread. I have never really thought about it but am now ordering a Hibiclens for the boat.
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Nothing is full proof but there are certainly precaustions one can take both preemptively and reactionary to mitigate the risk.

On a preemptive basis, we dont go in the water for 48hrs after a hard rain, I keep the freshwater tank on the boat full. Everyone gets rinsed off with soap and fresh water after a swim. We dont go in the water with open cuts.
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We keep PineSol and BLEACH onboard which is mixed, slightly diluted and then used to soak ANY serious cut, scrape, gash or wound... Puncture wounds are the worst and hard to treat.. Best thing is to bleed out a little and then clean as thoroughly as possible and shelter from further fish fluids until after treatment on dry land... Tight Lines

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hydrogen peroxide.. personally have seen several cases over yrs, 2 died, one was in hospital over 6 mths , and another I watched him scratch his hand on minnow trap, small scratch turned his hand to what looked like cheese pizza in 6-8 hours! he was on meds for several mths.. Swears he still has not recovered fully from damage after several yrs!
All the guys I knew that worked crabs in deltaville carried bottle of beach to pour on cuts! ( And I used them)
BTW, the guy that was in hospital 6-8 mths,,,, I was told, Doc said he believed it entered a mosquito bite on his leg.. while he was standing in water working on boat motor! They almost amputated his leg to save his life.

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Great thread. I have never really thought about it but am now ordering a Hibiclens for the boat.
I picked mine up from The evil Walmart as I was near one when itentered my consciousness to get some so it is available at most pharmacies and Wally worlds.

I always get a good ribbing from my buddies but I also always carry a military issue trauma kit with me as wel with quick clot and such for sucking Chest wounds.

it is affectionately known as my “sucking chest wound kit”.
They joke but my med kit has helped more than a few of our kids when we are hanging outdoors and they inevitably get cut burned or stung. I’m always the go to guy for first aid, and I’m not even a medic.

Another good tip for all of us which could mean the difference between life and death and is so simple:

Keep a bottle of high dose Aspirin (chewable are probably better since you will need to chew for fastest absorption) in the event of any cardiac events while in the boat. You would want to chew 2-4 low dose or at least one high dose. The blood thinning aspirin could save your life in the time it takes to get to emergency services. You should keep some in your car too. I’m 41 so you can never be too careful or prepared.
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Good tips. All of my kits (car, house, boat) have trauma dressing, quick clot, a tourniquet as well as other assorted. Gunshot wound is something to be prepared for everywhere, you never know.

I keep 81mg chewable aspirin with me everywhere for the same reason. Chest pain = start chewing them 3 at a time. Airplane flight = chew one every couple hours.
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I shoot competitively so I always have a clot kit.

each of our cars have first aid kits from amazon with crack light sticks. My wife thinks I am an idiot. My little one has needed it more than once. She has needed the Benadryl. Go figure

last winter I got a rockfish spine in my thumb. Pus and redness and pain for 4 weeks. I squeezed it everyday and took a box knife to it to open it up and drain it

we already have skin cut disenfectant on the boat in case we step on an oyster or barnacle. This year I will fish with gloves even if I look like a dork

i know two people who have almost lost hands from barnacles. And speant $$$ and time going to doc appts

its No joke if it happens to you. Until it does you probably don't take it seriously
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Originally Posted by DuckBack View Post

I picked mine up from The evil Walmart as I was near one when itentered my consciousness to get some so it is available at most pharmacies and Wally worlds.

I always get a good ribbing from my buddies but I also always carry a military issue trauma kit with me as wel with quick clot and such for sucking Chest wounds.

it is affectionately known as my “sucking chest wound kit”.
They joke but my med kit has helped more than a few of our kids when we are hanging outdoors and they inevitably get cut burned or stung. I’m always the go to guy for first aid, and I’m not even a medic.

Another good tip for all of us which could mean the difference between life and death and is so simple:

Keep a bottle of high dose Aspirin (chewable are probably better since you will need to chew for fastest absorption) in the event of any cardiac events while in the boat. You would want to chew 2-4 low dose or at least one high dose. The blood thinning aspirin could save your life in the time it takes to get to emergency services. You should keep some in your car too. I’m 41 so you can never be too careful or prepared.
when I was having my hart attack I chewed up several didn't count 4-6 regular Bayer aspirin doc said it saved my life
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I know watermen that also clean fish & they at the end of the day douse there hands with Listerine they claim it stops the small nicks & cuts from hurting when their hands dry out. they say it kills the small nerve ends. but never mentioned any disinfectant reasons
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iodine bottle on the console of the boat...
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Thanks for bringing this up. My bottle of Hibiclens is pretty old, so this reminded me that it's probably a good time to replace it.
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iodine bottle on the console of the boat...
just picked up a big bottle of that in addition to a bottle of the saline irritant. Basically a spray bottle of saline wound wash to flush out any wounds in case clean water isn’t avail. Gonna be a cocktail when needed.

Thanks for suggestion of iodine. I asked pharmacist and they said the 10% Povidone-Iodine solution would be the best option of the various iodine products they had at Walgreens. I’m sure I can get some surgical stuff from brother in law as well.
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Originally Posted by DuckBack View Post

I picked mine up from The evil Walmart as I was near one when itentered my consciousness to get some so it is available at most pharmacies and Wally worlds.

I always get a good ribbing from my buddies but I also always carry a military issue trauma kit with me as wel with quick clot and such for sucking Chest wounds.

it is affectionately known as my “sucking chest wound kit”.
They joke but my med kit has helped more than a few of our kids when we are hanging outdoors and they inevitably get cut burned or stung. I’m always the go to guy for first aid, and I’m not even a medic.

Another good tip for all of us which could mean the difference between life and death and is so simple:

Keep a bottle of high dose Aspirin (chewable are probably better since you will need to chew for fastest absorption) in the event of any cardiac events while in the boat. You would want to chew 2-4 low dose or at least one high dose. The blood thinning aspirin could save your life in the time it takes to get to emergency services. You should keep some in your car too. I’m 41 so you can never be too careful or prepared.

the given low dose you are referring to for a cardiac event is 81mg of baby aspirin or a total of 4 at 324mg. But great advise all around.
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This is a good thread. The girlfriend and I are looking into an epi-pen for our kit. We don't have any KNOWN allergies but you never know about your guests.
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I wonder if StarTron works?...….SERIOUSLY.....I appreciate this thread and great info.
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Originally Posted by DuckBack View Post

just picked up a big bottle of that in addition to a bottle of the saline irritant. Basically a spray bottle of saline wound wash to flush out any wounds in case clean water isn’t avail. Gonna be a cocktail when needed.

Thanks for suggestion of iodine. I asked pharmacist and they said the 10% Povidone-Iodine solution would be the best option of the various iodine products they had at Walgreens. I’m sure I can get some surgical stuff from brother in law as well.
I’ve been through this with the surgeons who operate on people with Vibrio, having had Vibrio twice and almost lost my hand last time, Iodine is what they tell me to use ASAP, so I keep it handy. For years I had hydrogen peroxide, bleach, other disinfectants.

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