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Old 07-16-2019, 06:12 AM
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When trolling the canyons, we love to run a catch all spread: wide trackers, long rigger joe shutes, way back bird with green machine, daisy chain/flippy floppy short rigger with a slant face marlin lure or wide range, cedar plug on the short flat, wahoo lure deep, and two ringer swiveled hoos on the long flats.

We ran one lure with wire last week in hopes of finding Mr. Wahoo. Do you find that trolling a wire lure deep decreases your chance of catching other pelagics? Is there a way to counter this? I had thought about putting my wahoo lures on 18" of wire so it just sticks about a foot above the lure to a small barrel swivel to a fluoro wind on. Curious on your thoughts.
Old 07-16-2019, 08:01 AM
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I think a short wire trace is all you should need when the wahoo are around. As far as other pelagics, there is varying opinions...I caught my first white marlin on a planer rig wired for wahoo
Old 07-16-2019, 09:42 AM
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I've caught everything on wire except tuna. We used to pull a lot of wire in Hatteras. Never a problem.
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Why run wire on 1 lure? A wahoo will eat anything you pull so whats the chances he hits the wire, 1 in 7 or 1 in 9? You could wire loop your rigs to prevent biting thru the loop but I run all fluro or mono no wire. I find tuna can get very finicky if something is not right in the spread.
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Originally Posted by bushd827 View Post
Why run wire on 1 lure? A wahoo will eat anything you pull so whats the chances he hits the wire, 1 in 7 or 1 in 9? You could wire loop your rigs to prevent biting thru the loop but I run all fluro or mono no wire. I find tuna can get very finicky if something is not right in the spread.
Thought was to run wire on the deep bait, i.e., the one bait a wahoo is most likely to hit.
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Originally Posted by Flounder13 View Post
Thought was to run wire on the deep bait, i.e., the one bait a wahoo is most likely to hit.
I understand what your thinking but like I said yellowfin get finicky. I will not run a planner when fishing for yellowfin, only bluefin and still no wire leader on that lure
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Run wire short to fluro like you said...Here we don't have any tuna other than Blackfins so we aren't worried about it much..
Personally the most important thing is to tailor the spread to one or two species.. anything other than that is a bonus..
we typically will target dolphin and catch a few Blackfins and sails and the occasional hoo. In the fall we will target wahoo and catch a few Blackfins and mahi...bit the most successful thing is to target one type of fish...too.many different sizes and such can look off and end up not catching anything
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As others have said, yellowfin can be finicky about wire so I agree if I'm targeting yellowfin I don't run it.

But, for a "catch all spread" like you we typically are targeting anything in the heat of the summer when all the water is the same temp. We run wire on our planer rods and sometimes on the shotgun if we are targeting wahoo. Have caught plenty of mahi on wire, and we have all our other lures without wire in the spread. Now yes, wahoo can hit anything, but most of our wahoo come on the deep lures (planer/way back heavy shute or ilander) so its worth it for us to run wire on a couple.

Now sometimes later in the year if we are specifically wahoo fishing, especially inshore, I will run all wire except for a couple cedar plugs. Out of MHC NC the guys down there run all wire when wahoo fishing typically and we've caught blackfins and mahi on the wire while targeting wahoo down there.
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Originally Posted by MaddMac View Post
Run wire short to fluro like you said...Here we don't have any tuna other than Blackfins so we aren't worried about it much..
Personally the most important thing is to tailor the spread to one or two species.. anything other than that is a bonus..
we typically will target dolphin and catch a few Blackfins and sails and the occasional hoo. In the fall we will target wahoo and catch a few Blackfins and mahi...bit the most successful thing is to target one type of fish...too.many different sizes and such can look off and end up not catching anything
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Not to ask you to give away too many secrets, but what would a fall wahoo spread look like to you. I'm thinking heavy illanders or shutes on longs, a way back Black bart on inline weight and two deep baits off the corners.

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