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Penn visx or vsw for 20-30 line

Old 05-29-2019, 05:07 PM
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Default Penn visx or vsw for 20-30 line

Going to get a mix of Penn's for trolling/chunking the inshore areas. My thoughts are 6 30s and 2 50s. If going with braid backing and mono topshots. Is there any reason to get the wides over the visx?
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:36 AM
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a 30w will stop and land 99% of what you will hook up with. I have only had 1 fish spool me and that was an old 30 vs very big bluefin. 30w will stop a big eye no problem
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:52 AM
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Do big eye s even come in that close?
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:37 PM
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I faced the same dilemma and determined that Penn 50VISW's were for me. I am fishing OI, Norfolk Canyon, and OC.
I really needed dedicated Trolling Reels and with the extra line capacity in Penn VISW's it was an easy choice for me. I spooled 100JB Hollowcore with 80lb Momoi Mono top shot, with 130lb Flouro Leaders.

1. I run a Catamaran and I generate lots of Whitewater at the troll, thus I have to troll further back than the average guy.
2. My CoCaptain (Spouse) is pretty useless as a deckhand! I end up having to clear all the lines myself and it complicates things.
3. The Wides let me keep the boat moving forward aggressively while I do my circus floor act.

I opted to pass on the 30s for now and treated myself to an electric reel for meat haul days.

Good luck with your choices...
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:53 PM
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Unless fishing for giant BFTs or needing a big drag surface to run an inline planer 30w is the biggest I go. This includes canyon trolling where bigeyes can get in the mix. So much easier to fight a fish with a lighter set up standup. I run 6 Avet HXWs for my ballyhoo baits and 6 Tiagra 30w for the bars / chains. With braid backing and mono top shot and high confidence in my terminal connections. 20 lbs drag at strike and a ton of capacity on the Avets and 25 lbs and the same on the tiagras. Not much they can’t stop IMO. Eye opening was killing a 200 lb tuna last year with a 50w rigged the same as those 30s that didn’t even get into the backing... Got me thinking why I had all that money tied up in those reels that take up so much space and are easily 2x as heavy as the avets... Ended up selling a bunch of gear and downsizing and ended up netting a little bit of cash in the process. Simple answer, nothing wrong with 30w with braid backing and drag set appropriately with the right rods. You can use them for most anything. If set up right, the 30w reels fish like old-school 80w reels with straight mono at a fraction of the cost and weight. The cash savings can be put elsewhere.

Edit: I would get the wides for capacity.
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Old 05-30-2019, 02:38 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I was looking at avets pretty hard. But I have the opportunity to get Penn's for a steal. I could get the visw or the visx. I was thinking 6 30s for my main spread. This would be with double rigged outriggers and two flat lines. Is it greedy to think I can double rig 18' riggers? I was also thinking of 50 visx for a wwb. And an additional 50 visx to run from the stern with a planner. You can have a shot at wahoo on the 30 line correct? I don't think I have the range to really plan on hitting the true canyons. Running a cobia 237. I have no problem spending the money needed. But like said above I don't want unnecessary money sitting in gear that's not really needed.
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Old 05-30-2019, 02:42 PM
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Yes, your plan sounds good. I completely forgot to mention that the other use for 50s or 80s is running way backs for bluefins inshore, so having a few for that completely reasonable. You’re well within your limits to double rig 18 ft riggers IMO. I have mine triple rigged, but they are 22 ft. Lots of wahoos caught along the 20 and 30 lines in late summer into early fall. I would get wide versions on all those reels personally.
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:19 PM
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Thanks Cletus I think that's the plan I'm going with. For some reason I would be more stoked to get a wahoo over a tuna
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:58 PM
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Big eyes are deep, I was just saying they have no problem stopping them. I run all avets 6 30s 3 50s and a Trx for planner rod. 130 braid backing that doesn’t get seen too often on all reels. The way back will see braid a lot but just the top of it
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Old 05-31-2019, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cletus9000 View Post
Unless fishing for giant BFTs or needing a big drag surface to run an inline planer 30w is the biggest I go. This includes canyon trolling where bigeyes can get in the mix. So much easier to fight a fish with a lighter set up standup. I run 6 Avet HXWs for my ballyhoo baits and 6 Tiagra 30w for the bars / chains. With braid backing and mono top shot and high confidence in my terminal connections. 20 lbs drag at strike and a ton of capacity on the Avets and 25 lbs and the same on the tiagras. Not much they can’t stop IMO. Eye opening was killing a 200 lb tuna last year with a 50w rigged the same as those 30s that didn’t even get into the backing... Got me thinking why I had all that money tied up in those reels that take up so much space and are easily 2x as heavy as the avets... Ended up selling a bunch of gear and downsizing and ended up netting a little bit of cash in the process. Simple answer, nothing wrong with 30w with braid backing and drag set appropriately with the right rods. You can use them for most anything. If set up right, the 30w reels fish like old-school 80w reels with straight mono at a fraction of the cost and weight. The cash savings can be put elsewhere.

Edit: I would get the wides for capacity.
Im looking to add two new combos in the 30 size range or maybe Avet H size for trolling and chunking. Do you think the Avet H need to be Raptors or are the regular ones adequate?
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Old 05-31-2019, 10:01 AM
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Im looking to add two new combos in the 30 size range or maybe Avet H size for trolling and chunking. Do you think the Avet H need to be Raptors or are the regular ones adequate?
I think for trolling the regular models are fine. They can get to 20+ lbs drag at strike. If memory serves I have mine with 80 lbs braid and 60 lbs mono top shot, with a good bit of capacity. To get much use out of the higher drag capacity of the raptors for the trolling application you’d need heavier running line and thus would have less capacity to work with — assuming you use the 1/3 rule. That said I got a good deal on some raptors and have a few of those in the mix. But have all the HXWs regular and raptors set up the exact same way. I will say the upgraded handle is nice but not a deal breaker given the price difference
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Okay, thanks for the response Cletus
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:14 AM
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An Avet 50/2, not a wide backed with 100 or 130 lb hollow core and 150 yd mono topshot, or Penn will stop just about anything. We did land a 250 plus BE on a Penn 30 2-speed after an hour and 40 min. Those 50 wides can be cumbersome to handle and with the braid you have enough line capacity
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