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Old 02-10-2019, 10:35 AM
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Canvassing opinions as to the best performing marine battery.
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:48 AM
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I like Northstar and Odyssey. They cost a bit more but I get about 10 years of trouble free service so it’s worth it to me.
Old 02-10-2019, 11:50 AM
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Tony, It depends on if you want it as a house, start or combo.

Price varies widely as do opinions. I am big believer in KISS and use flooded wet cells. I also know that there are Firefly http://fireflyenergy.com/ and Products Archive - Lifeline Batteries that are great but very expensive.
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Originally Posted by BCTony View Post
Canvassing opinions as to the best performing marine battery.
you need to specify more parameters such as application and budget

best is too subjective

starting? house? thruster?

is weight a concern? form factor? ability to discharge and have it be forgiving?

is a vented area available? temps? vibrations? (i.e. in engine room)

if your budget allows, lithium is very lightweight but costs a TON

etc

you are basically asking a question like "what is the best vehicle"
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Best battery is a nicad See them at the Miami show next weekend Weigh only 15-25 lbs Cost $1500- $2,000

Other than that use a Odyssey or Optima
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I avoid the Odyssey because if they get too low on a charge your auto charger may not charge them back and you wont know until you get ready to go and find the charging did not work even though it was on. To fix it, you have to go through some kind of jump process to start it charging again. I called them and they acknowledged that can happen if they run down too low. So I said, well how I am supposed to know for sure without waiting for hours? There is no way to know. Its a quirk in the design of them. The was the last time I got those even though when charged they work great. The Optimas don't have that same issue and can be charged from a zero charge without having to jump anything.
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Originally Posted by Egret&Lab View Post
I avoid the Odyssey because if they get too low on a charge your auto charger may not charge them back and you wont know until you get ready to go and find the charging did not work even though it was on. To fix it, you have to go through some kind of jump process to start it charging again. I called them and they acknowledged that can happen if they run down too low. So I said, well how I am supposed to know for sure without waiting for hours? There is no way to know. Its a quirk in the design of them. The was the last time I got those even though when charged they work great. The Optimas don't have that same issue and can be charged from a zero charge without having to jump anything.
This has to do with the charger you are using, not the battery. Some chargers wont start to charge unless there is a certain minimum voltage. In order to trick the charger, you just have to put a charged battery in parallel to get the voltage up. You do not have to wait hours, because your charger will have an error code right away if this is the case. This can happen with any battery depending on the charger you are using.

My favorite batteries are X2 Power AGM from Batteries Plus. They are identical specs to Odyssey and have a 4 year warranty vs 3.
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Originally Posted by dihrah View Post
Best battery is a nicad See them at the Miami show next weekend Weigh only 15-25 lbs Cost $1500- $2,000

Other than that use a Odyssey or Optima
I would beg to differ. The lithium out perform and weigh less.
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I am in need of a new house battery. Currently I have a wet cell group 27 (interstate) I thought at one time people suggested going to a group 31 in AGM as a replacement for the 27. Is that still the case? Looked at the Batteries+ but the Lifeline GPL-27T costs a little less and has a 5 year warranty.
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If you have the space, a group 31 is certainly better than a group 27.
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Originally Posted by popeyeiii View Post
you misspelled "hull" on the search, it won't work...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=best+marine+bat...ehulltruth.com
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
you need to specify more parameters such as application and budget

best is too subjective

starting? house? thruster?

is weight a concern? form factor? ability to discharge and have it be forgiving?

is a vented area available? temps? vibrations? (i.e. in engine room)

if your budget allows, lithium is very lightweight but costs a TON

etc

you are basically asking a question like "what is the best vehicle"
OK – the question was kind of broad brush.

I have Twin Yamaha F200 outboards, Yamaha 9.9HT kicker and an extensive electronics system. Currently I have four batteries all AGM dual purpose cranking/deep cycle. Two are dedicated starter batteries with ACR and two are linked in series as house battery. Of the four, three are almost six years old and the fourth two years.

I am looking to replace all four before any failure provokes an immediate ‘what’s available’ type purchase.
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BUMP

Last season I brought 4 batteries back to Sam's Club, had them checked and all four, under warranty by 2 weeks, tested weak so replacements were tested and we left with 4 batteries. Problem is there was a 2 week warranty on the new batteries as that is the remainder of the existing purchase warranty.
23 footer with twin Johnson 150's has been laid up and work completed today. Batteries are starting house combo. 24's . I always run with the extra two batteries, force of habit for the last 30 years. Got stuck once with a bad set 5 miles out. Never again without a backup !

Well, 2 of the replacement batteries are dead and of course Sam's says Oh Well !
They were stored in a climate controlled room all winter, put on trickle in March and brought to the boat in Memorial Day weekend. Plastic bags with nuts are still attached and intact.
Moving along I plan to argue the point until this gets squared away but in the interim I need to replace my batteries.

Plenty of threads dealing with this have been read through and I always find myself unsure of what to buy. Budget is a concern, thus going to Sam's or other wholesale clubs. I like Deka across the board for my construction equipt and trucks, cars etc but am unsure about marine application.

So, for a primarily inshore 23 footer that occasionally ventures offshore 25% of the time, that has new electronics and 4G radar, runs VHF and FM radio, should I stick with the Sam's Club 24's ( 27's are tight ) or look at other batteries. As I said earlier budget this year is tight ( had a costly personal tragedy last year ) but I don't want to scrimp with the batteries. I was used to getting 4 to 5 years of marine use out of my batteries but that too has changed with the times like everything else.

Thanks in advance
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I've got X2 Power from Batteries Plus...they are made by Northstar and have a true 4 year (IIRC) warranty that is not pro-rated.
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Originally Posted by MicksShadyGrady View Post
BUMP

Last season I brought 4 batteries back to Sam's Club, had them checked and all four, under warranty by 2 weeks, tested weak so replacements were tested and we left with 4 batteries. Problem is there was a 2 week warranty on the new batteries as that is the remainder of the existing purchase warranty.
23 footer with twin Johnson 150's has been laid up and work completed today. Batteries are starting house combo. 24's . I always run with the extra two batteries, force of habit for the last 30 years. Got stuck once with a bad set 5 miles out. Never again without a backup !

Well, 2 of the replacement batteries are dead and of course Sam's says Oh Well !
They were stored in a climate controlled room all winter, put on trickle in March and brought to the boat in Memorial Day weekend. Plastic bags with nuts are still attached and intact.
Moving along I plan to argue the point until this gets squared away but in the interim I need to replace my batteries.

Plenty of threads dealing with this have been read through and I always find myself unsure of what to buy. Budget is a concern, thus going to Sam's or other wholesale clubs. I like Deka across the board for my construction equipt and trucks, cars etc but am unsure about marine application.

So, for a primarily inshore 23 footer that occasionally ventures offshore 25% of the time, that has new electronics and 4G radar, runs VHF and FM radio, should I stick with the Sam's Club 24's ( 27's are tight ) or look at other batteries. As I said earlier budget this year is tight ( had a costly personal tragedy last year ) but I don't want to scrimp with the batteries. I was used to getting 4 to 5 years of marine use out of my batteries but that too has changed with the times like everything else.

Thanks in advance
what did you do to maintain the batteries? did you check water levels and add distilled water as needed? what is the lowest you let them deplete? 50%? 60%? what trickle charger did you use? a smart one? what charger do you have on the boat? a smart one? some more details would be helpful to pinpoint whether it was bad maintenance/care that lead to failure or if they were babied and still failed. thanks.
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Thanks schoolsout1

The AGM batteries that were exchanged were depleted to about 30% once that I am aware of. Could it have happened more ? Anything is possible, but unlikely. The only chargers I use are NOCO Genius on the boat and at home. They have been reliable. Boat is reliably checked twice daily if I am unavailable. Home charger is NOCO portable and the boat is a NOCO 2 bank, soon to be upgraded to a 4 bank. Have heard that several people had problems with Sam's batteries in the 2 locations I have purchased from, Medford NY and Bangor Maine, in the past 3 years. Have also heard the same has occurred in other areas.

Sorry about the larger text. I have no idea why it happened and can't figure out how to adjust text size.

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Deka out of Pa,
East Penn Manufacturing ? The world's largest single site, family-owned lead-acid battery manufacturer
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I like the Odyssea marine Extreme AGMs. 34M-PC1500 or 31M-PC2500 . 3 yr full warranty.
https://www.odysseybatteries.com/batteries.htm
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I can't help, but the lead used in batteries is heavily recycled and there are alot of impurities. I believe this is why lead acid batteries fail so frequently now. I really hope lithium battery prices become more affordable soon.

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