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Old 06-25-2018, 06:26 AM
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Good morning,

Thinking of looking into the Raymarine Axiom MFD for my new (to me) boat. Wanted to get your opinions/advice/recommendations.

I want to do:

9" MFD Screen
Transducer
2 x Raymarine 60 VHF radios
(possibly their entry level radome chirp radar if i can fit one into the budget.. would be nice to do it all at once)

I've been a Garmin guy for a long time, but, I really like the 3d sonar on the new Raymarine's, and, I don't know.. just wanna try something else.

What chartplotter should i get? There are a few different options for the 9" and I'm not really sure what the differences are between the 9" models.

Thanks in advance
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In the 9's you have the 9 RV and the 9 RVX Pro. The Pro has a 1 kw sonar module built in. The basic Axiom 9 RV only supports a 600w transducer without an add-on module. The Pro also has the Hybrid Touch controls, where you can mix touch and buttons and a multi-function dial. The basic 9 is all-touch. I am currently running a 9 pro and a basic 7' Axiom, and there is a considerable difference in in screen resolution, the Pro is brilliant and the basic Axiom is just OK. Also, the Pro has dual card slots on the front, the Axiom has a single rear card slot. More ports in the Pro as well, easier for networking.
There are add-ons available for the basic Axiom, such as the RMK 10 remote controls and the CP-470 1 KW sonar module, but by the time you add it up , you are simply better off getting the Pro, IMHO. Very happy with mine. I am running a B175M transducer as well as the RV-100 3-D, networked with the other Axiom and an EV-100 autopilot. I find the Lighthouse 3 OS very intuitive and easy to use, and this is my first networked setup.
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What kind of fishing do you do?
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Originally Posted by ranmar850 View Post
In the 9's you have the 9 RV and the 9 RVX Pro. The Pro has a 1 kw sonar module built in. The basic Axiom 9 RV only supports a 600w transducer without an add-on module. The Pro also has the Hybrid Touch controls, where you can mix touch and buttons and a multi-function dial. The basic 9 is all-touch. I am currently running a 9 pro and a basic 7' Axiom, and there is a considerable difference in in screen resolution, the Pro is brilliant and the basic Axiom is just OK. Also, the Pro has dual card slots on the front, the Axiom has a single rear card slot. More ports in the Pro as well, easier for networking.
There are add-ons available for the basic Axiom, such as the RMK 10 remote controls and the CP-470 1 KW sonar module, but by the time you add it up , you are simply better off getting the Pro, IMHO. Very happy with mine. I am running a B175M transducer as well as the RV-100 3-D, networked with the other Axiom and an EV-100 autopilot. I find the Lighthouse 3 OS very intuitive and easy to use, and this is my first networked setup.
HTH.
great write up, thank you!
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Originally Posted by Amity83 View Post
What kind of fishing do you do?
mostly drift fishing for sails with kites in 90-400ft.. i think i can get away with the 600kw for what i do?

I don't do any deep dropping.. and if i'm trolling 20 miles offshore, i guess i really don't care too much what's 1500 feet down?

Honestly i'm either drifting in 90-400 or at the sandbar with friends/family..
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The High chirp sonar in the axiom should be good to 400ft, probably not too much deeper. Getting something better that uses Chirp transducers would require an Axiom Pro which adds $1000 and then a nice transducer that is gonna add another $600-2000. The Axiom can use most dual frequency transducers(using an adapter cable) including 1000w models, but it only puts out 600w to them. That should still work well in 400ft. The higher power transducers are also more sensitive, so they still work well even at 600w. You could use something like a B164 or B258/B260 to improve on the deeper water performance. The 3D and structure sonar performance starts to diminish past 150ft.
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Originally Posted by Amity83 View Post
The High chirp sonar in the axiom should be good to 400ft, probably not too much deeper. Getting something better that uses Chirp transducers would require an Axiom Pro which adds $1000 and then a nice transducer that is gonna add another $600-2000. The Axiom can use most dual frequency transducers(using an adapter cable) including 1000w models, but it only puts out 600w to them. That should still work well in 400ft. The higher power transducers are also more sensitive, so they still work well even at 600w. You could use something like a B164 or B258/B260 to improve on the deeper water performance. The 3D and structure sonar performance starts to diminish past 150ft.
My understanding is that if i wanted to go 1000w further down the road, i could just add a few components at that time, right?

So, I could start off with a 600w setup and then upgrade to 1kw in a year or two when the new boat $$$ dust settles... ?
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Yes. You can add a CP470 or CP570 sounder module and get 1000w chirp sonar capability on your axiom.
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Amity83, you wrote that High CHIRP for Axiom should be good for 400', do you mean drawing bottom or showing fish targets?
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Check out the New RVX 1000 1kw sounder module.It will add all of Raymarines sonar technologies to any ES,GS series on lighthouse 3 or any Regular Axiom display.You will have down vision,side vision,high conical chirp,3d and 1kw Airmar chirp socket.They were released about 2 weeks ago.We have been testing them for a few months.Very,very nice..You get everything they make.The 1kw Airmar chirp socket is a duel channel. Same as a 470 sounder.You get much more with the RVX 1000. Capt.Mike
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Just noticed your post about Radar . We run the latest and greatest from Raymarine.We test a lot there products weekly.We test new software and hardware well in advance.To try and work out any glitches before public release.You can not go wrong with Raymarine.I know there are plenty of people upset from DSM issues,but Raymarine is much differnt today.Yes I'm bias.I've used all of the latest offerings from other manufacturers.Im not going to bash anybody but the new Raymarine is in there words SIMPLY SUPERIOR.I agree.We run about 300 to 500 miles a week offshore,using all of there equipment ,from the all of there sonar choices to there awesome Evolution pilots,to there new Magnum open arays and the Quantum and Quantum 2 dome Radars.Look at there Quantum line of Radars.There great.Low power consumption,light weight and very cost effective.We run a Simple Quantum Radar. Yesterday we left in the dark with thunderstorms all over the G.O.M. Ran out over 50 miles offshore with the Axiom Pro 16s, the Quantum radar,Evolution pilot ....No complaints from me.Full coolers means happy customers.. Capt.Mike

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West marine is running a killer deal on the 9 inch Axiom and you get a free 3d sonar module with it... The sale starts tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by abbor View Post
Amity83, you wrote that High CHIRP for Axiom should be good for 400', do you mean drawing bottom or showing fish targets?
"good" is a relative term. Raymarine claims it will mark bottom to 900, though I've never used one anywhere near that deep and I am highly suspicious of that claim. I think the lower limit for fish is more in the 350-500 range. Its a tough choice as the H chirp is a relatively low end transducer, but making the next step up costs tons more money. A P66 might be better or a B164 running at 600w might improve depth performance but many are obsessed with chirp and don't want to consider a dual frequency unit. I would not recommend it for offshore use but not everyone can afford a 1000w sonar module and a B175 for inshore use. This is one of the downsides of the Axiom for certain users. It costs less than a 7600 or a NSS evo3 AND provides affordable 3D sonar, but it can't use Airmar chirp transducers.

It's very easy to spend other people's money on this forum.
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Originally Posted by floffshore View Post
Good morning,

Thinking of looking into the Raymarine Axiom MFD for my new (to me) boat. Wanted to get your opinions/advice/recommendations.

I want to do:

9" MFD Screen
Transducer
2 x Raymarine 60 VHF radios
(possibly their entry level radome chirp radar if i can fit one into the budget.. would be nice to do it all at once)

I've been a Garmin guy for a long time, but, I really like the 3d sonar on the new Raymarine's, and, I don't know.. just wanna try something else.

What chartplotter should i get? There are a few different options for the 9" and I'm not really sure what the differences are between the 9" models.

Thanks in advance
I didn't know which one to get so I bought a Garmin 942XS and a Raymarine Axiom9 and played with both.

Garmin:
I really like that my phone can sync to it so I can see texts, calls, meeting invites, IMs and what not on the plotter, great feature when "working from the boat"
The Fusion audio controls are great, they do everything that I can do via the app or on the head unit
I like the wireless connectivity to VIBRO cameras
Active captain app is pretty decent
Plotter I think is kinda slow when moving around the maps
Dock to Dock auto routing requires a $400 map upgrade

Axiom9
Navonics maps are great
Navvonics + which is only $100 more gives you dock to dock auto routing
The plotter is super fast, like really fast
Fusion audio controls are terrible, Forward, back, pause volume up/down for zone 1 only
The unit is very thick compared to the Garmin
The power cord where it connects into the unit is huge


Honestly I really wanted to like the Axiom and went into it thinking I would go that route but ill be going with the Garmin. Its just more every day usable.

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Eddie, I don't see West Marine's killer deal on the axiom 9. Maybe I'm just missing it.
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Here is the ad I got a couple of days ago, I hope this uploads...

AND triple points on this thing is great!

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So, $1249.00 with Navionics and you get the RV-100 for free.
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Thank you sir. That is a great deal. I'm pretty tempted
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That’s a crazy deal. I think I paid $1550 at the Defender Warehouse sale. It’s a great unit. I wouldn’t pass that up.
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Thanks again Eddie for the heads up. I've been looking at the Axiom series for a while and was waiting for a good sale or used unit. I couldn't pass this deal up. Put my order in this morning. Pretty pumped. Hope installation isn't too difficult.

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