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Old 03-15-2018, 08:42 PM
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OLATHE, Kan./March 15, 2018
Business Wire – Garmin International, Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ:GRMN), today announced Ultra High-Definition scanning sonar, a new technology that uses a higher frequency range to deliver stunningly clear images and detail of structure and fish below and around the boat at greater depths. Clarity and detail of fish, rocks, brush piles, structure and beyond are redefined with this new scanning sonar system that includes Ultra High-Definition ClearVü and Ultra High-Definition SideVü sonar with frequencies ranging from .8 to 1.2 MHz. The superior ClearVü image clarity lets anglers see up to 200 feet below the boat – much deeper than other high-frequency scanning sonars – so fish really have nowhere to hide.

“Our Ultra High-Definition scanning sonar will give inland and nearshore anglers the greatest detail available from a Garmin system to date,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin vice president of global consumer sales. “It’s available as a standalone system that’s compatible with all of our current GPSMAP and select ECHOMAP Plus multi-function displays, further proving our continued commitment to offering the best sonar technology in the market to both our existing and future customers.”

Scanning sonar is redefined with Ultra High-Definition as it delivers greater resolution by putting more power on the targets with a higher frequency range than before. To see what’s below the boat, Ultra High-Definition ClearVü scans with a downward-facing element that provides clear images at depths of up to 200 feet. For a detailed look at what’s around the boat, Ultra-High Definition SideVü shows clear images of structure and fish off to the sides of the boat. Imagery from the Ultra High-Definition system can be shared seamlessly across multiple networked displays so anglers can easily see the information they need at a glance from different locations on the boat based on preference or the fishing situation. Using the included extra network expander on the GCV™ 20 sonar black box, Panoptix™ all-seeing sonar can also be distributed to multiple networked displays.



The Ultra High-Definition scanning sonar system includes an easy-to-install, networkable GCV 20 sonar black box, a GT34UHD transducer and both transom and trolling motor mounts, and is expected to be available in Q2 2018
It’s compatible with the GPSMAP 8400/8600, GPSMAP 7400/7600, GPSMAP 10×2/12×2, GPSMAP 12×2/12x2xsv Touch and GPSMAP 7×2/9×2 series chartplotters, and the 7- and 9-inch ECHOMAP Plus combo series. For thru-hull installation, the GT34UHD-TH is also available or the GT34UHD-THP includes two transducers .




Add Ultra High-Definition Scanning Sonar to Your Compatible Chartplotter
The easy-to-install, networkable GCV 20 sonar black box allows you to redefine clarity and detail. Add any of the 3 GT34UHD transducer models to see stunningly clear Ultra High-Definition ClearVü and Ultra High-Definition SideVü scanning sonars — with frequencies ranging from 0.8 MHz (800 kHz) to 1.2 MHz (1,200 kHz) — to your compatible chartplotter. And you can share sonar images seamlessly across multiple networked chartplotters as well as networking Panoptix™ all-seeing sonar. It includes a max power output of 500 watts.

Ultra High-Definition ClearVü Scanning
This mode provides brilliant image clarity of structure and fish below your boat at greater depths than other high-frequency scanning sonars by putting more power on targets via a downward-facing element.

Ultra High-Definition SideVü Scanning
This mode delivers stunningly clear images of structure and fish off to the sides of your boat. This makes it easy to scout a fishing area quickly, because you can see everything the first time with such amazing clarity.





Ultra High-Definition Sonar System Transom Mount Transducer....(Or thru hull single or pairs)
Add stunningly clear Ultra High-Definition ClearVü and Ultra High-Definition SideVü scanning sonar images to your compatible chartplotter via the GCV™ 20 sonar module. It includes 3 arrays, including a downward-facing element, with frequencies ranging from 0.8 MHz (800 kHz) to 1.2 MHz (1,200 kHz).

Ultra High-Definition ClearVü Scanning
This mode provides brilliant image clarity of structure and fish below your boat at greater depths than other high-frequency scanning sonars by putting more power on targets via a downward-facing element
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Ultra High-Definition SideVü Scanning
This mode delivers stunningly clear images of structure and fish off to the sides of your boat. This makes it easy to scout a fishing area quickly, because you can see everything the first time with such amazing clarity.





Ultra High-Definition ClearVü: 0.8 MHz (800 kHz), CHIRP range: 760-880 kHz

Ultra High-Definition SideVü: 1.2 MHz (1,200 kHz), CHIRP range: 1,060-1,170 kHz




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I'm a bit confused, with the CV52 you can only have the clearvu and sidevu set at the same frequency, but with this new unit it looks like they can be different frequencies given that the clearvu on the GT34 only says it works at 800hz. How is that possible with only two elements?
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The transducer has three elements, two for the sides and one down.

Garmin and Navico agreed on a cross licensing agreement for some patents a few months ago, this gives Garmin the rights to use down elements for scanning sonar and Lowrance and Simrad to do autorouting in US.
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Can the GVC20 be used with current GT30 transducer by just replacing the GCV10?
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So using the GT 34 UHD with the GVC 20 sonar module would still need to add a 2d sonar transducer correct? What would you recommend for that? Would the GT8 IH be an option? Or can it work along with the GT52 HW-TM?
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Originally Posted by bayvalley1 View Post
So using the GT 34 UHD with the GVC 20 sonar module would still need to add a 2d sonar transducer correct? What would you recommend for that? Would the GT8 IH be an option? Or can it work along with the GT52 HW-TM?
The GCV20 is Side and Down scan only....and will use the network port of the MFD...(Similar to the GCV10)

So..the MFD will still have use of any traditional transducer input...of which one will have a wide selection.

The GT8 will work, yes.
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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
The GCV20 is Side and Down scan only....and will use the network port of the MFD...(Similar to the GCV10)

So..the MFD will still have use of any traditional transducer input...of which one will have a wide selection.

The GT8 will work, yes.
So do you need to select which transducer is being used if using a Gt52 HW and the GT 34 UHD? With the GT 34 UHD running through the GBC 20 sonar module and the gt52 HW running directly from the unit can you select the GT34 UHD to run Imaging while running 2D sonar from the gt52 HW on split screen? The confusion I have is the gt52 HW also has Imaging so how does the unit determine which transducer it will use?
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As i understood, the Garmin GT34 UHD only has 800Hz and 1200Hz elements.
If that’s the case it’s not for me as in saltwater, the range looses a bit and with those frequencies i wont cover most of my fishing grounds.
I’ll wait for new transducers that cover the hole scaning spectrum frequencies Garmin now has. (this is just a teaser in my opinion)
I now know that the 7600/7400 substitute will have this UHD feature built in!
As the black box is out, i hope the 7600/7400 will take 6/8 months to appear, but it’s just my hope.
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Originally Posted by abbor View Post
The transducer has three elements, two for the sides and one down.

Garmin and Navico agreed on a cross licensing agreement for some patents a few months ago, this gives Garmin the rights to use down elements for scanning sonar and Lowrance and Simrad to do autorouting in US.
That seems surprising considering how nasty the lawsuit was. Do you have a source on that? Not that I don't believe you, but people have been talking about Garmins never having down imaging again for months.
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SemperFi, I'm sure it's too early to tell but since the current ClearVu does not show fish as well as traditional sonar at a lower frequency, why would this be any better for seeing fish? I can see why it is better for seeing structure... but fish?

Reason I ask.... I'm thinking of upgrading my 1040XS (no GCV-10) to a 1242xsv with a GT51 transducer OR 1242xsv with this GCV-20 and GT34UGD transducer. I fish the flats a lot of days and then fish the reef and beyond on out to 200-250ft. I guess that would mean my real question is is the GT51 or the GT34UHD better for me when I could be fishing a 10ft deep canal one day for snook and tarpon and then a 100ft deep reef the next?

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Originally Posted by On the Half Shell View Post
SemperFi, I'm sure it's too early to tell but since the current ClearVu does not show fish as well as traditional sonar at a lower frequency, why would this be any better for seeing fish? I can see why it is better for seeing structure... but fish?

Reason I ask.... I'm thinking of upgrading my 1040XS (no GCV-10) to a 1242xsv with a GT51 transducer OR 1242xsv with this GCV-20 and GT34UGD transducer. I fish the flats a lot of days and then fish the reef and beyond on out to 200-250ft. I guess that would mean my real question is is the GT51 or the GT34UHD better for me when I could be fishing a 10ft deep canal one day for snook and tarpon and then a 100ft deep reef the next?
Yes, too early to tell from actual hands on use.

But concerning the GT51 ..from users feedback ..I think the GT52HW has the ability to show fish in the side scan more effectually than the GT51 in shallow water such as yours.

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That seems surprising considering how nasty the lawsuit was. Do you have a source on that? Not that I don't believe you, but people have been talking about Garmins never having down imaging again for months.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansasci...licensing.html
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That seems surprising considering how nasty the lawsuit was. Do you have a source on that? Not that I don't believe you, but people have been talking about Garmins never having down imaging again for months.
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You should have seen the last meeting between the two companies attorneys when this was settled.....
Everyone was around the campfire ..singing ...and being the best of friends...


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Semper....
Would this be worth the upgrade, from a GT-30TM. Meaning is the definition that much better and will the black box be able to be networked through my two machines.
In my new boat I am currently building, I am going with B175HW and a B175L
I was doing a GT30 TM for side Vu / down Vu
I will be running 2 Garmin 7612XSV. So I assume I need the black box?

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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
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You should have seen the last meeting between the two companies attorneys when this was settled.....
Everyone was around the campfire ..singing ...and being the best of friends...


Note: The image shown above may not depict an actual event... and any likeness to real attorneys from either Navico or Garmin..and any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, or to actual firms, or events, and civility between parties, is purely coincidental.


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I think Garmin should be very happy a settlement was reached between the two companies US attorneys as shown by Gil before the Norwegian Navico team reached the battlefield.


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Originally Posted by PreciousCargo View Post
Set per....
Would this be worth the upgrade, from a GT-30TM. Meaning is the definition that much better and will the black box be able to be networked through my two machines.
In my new boat I am doing a B175HW and a B175L
I was doing a GT30 TM for side Vu / down Vu
I will be running 2 Garmin 7612XSV. So I assume I need the black box?
The new unit will network, yes.....and you need the GCV 20 black box with the GT34UHD ducer.

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So the 1040xs isn't compatible? I do have GVC 10 black box.
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So the 1040xs isn't compatible? I do have GVC 10 black box.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/626121#devices

Here is the current list of compatible units.


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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/626121#devices

Here is the current list of compatible units.


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Gotcha... not compatible.
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Hackneys boat

I tried to get you guys some pics but I haven’t been able to ask about how these are set up. I know josh has both but is running just the new transducer. He was running 100 feet no prob. Same as mega. I have had no issues streatching it out to 120 ft












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