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Old 11-24-2017, 01:48 PM
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I have been using the Navionics+ mobile app, which is amazing for route planning. It's dock to dock autorouting is fantastic and creates a safe route which may be reviewed and edited. Unfortunately it does not synch to my Garmin 7612 XSV chartplotter.

I started to use ActiveCaptain, which let's you create routes (as one of its many features), but everything seems to be manual, as far as creating a route and manually editing waypoints, and turns, etc. Has anyone spoke to Garmin about making this a more full featured route planning tool? I know they just bought Navionics.

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I don't understand the value of "auto routing." I'd prefer to specify my own route.
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:30 PM
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I don't understand the value of "auto routing." I'd prefer to specify my own route.

The cool thing about routing with Navionics is that you have the option to route using autorouting if you have a Navionics+ subscription (https://www.navionics.com/usa/charts...ck-autorouting) or you can use manual routing... or as I do, both. I like to create an auto route first to see what the app suggests. Then I create my own route. Often they are very similar but this gives me double the confidence in the route that I chose.
Also, the autorouting lets you set your draft, cruising speed, etc so it automatically calculates how long it will take you, and sets you on a safe route for your draft. This feature, again, makes me double confident in my route choice.

As for Garmin's plans for the auto routing feature, I can't speak to that but Navionics will continue to offer it.
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auto routing = fortune teller

useless information where you have to check every turn (aka make your own route anyway), but some people like to 'see what it will say' for some reason. more power to them, I suppose.
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I do all my route planning on my iPad using iNavX, one waypoint at a time and then transfer it to Garmin on an SD card. I too wouldn't trust auto-guidance as I want to know where every waypoint is and the iNavX SW makes it easy (much easier than on my chart plotter).

Looks like the new Garmin SW may let me transfer WPs/routes via my phone which will be a great feature (finally).
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Great explanation. I am hoping that Navionics will eventually output to Garmin Chatplotters
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With Garmin chartplotters, it's very easy to use Homeport to do route planning then upload to the MFD.
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I do that, and it does work. However, I find Navionics far superior in capabilities, and ease of use.
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With Garmin chartplotters, it's very easy to use Homeport to do route planning then upload to the MFD.
Upload with an SD card - is there another way?
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Originally Posted by daveddd View Post
I do that, and it does work. However, I find Navionics far superior in capabilities, and ease of use.
Not familiar with Navionics enough to understand how it is "far superior" considering that Homeport is free and is integrated with Active Captain now. Please elaborate.
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Upload with an SD card - is there another way?
Other than direct serial connection, not that I've used (at least on my 4210s). What's wrong with SD cards?
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Navionics is a "live app". You can be out boating, and for example, during your route, you can look at restaurants along the route and find out more info, and call them, etc. You can look up any navigation aid on the map, and pull up additional info on it. You can input your boat settings like draft and a low depth alert, and the app will shade the water areas according to those settings. The dock to dock auto-routing is superb as far as I have seen, so you can plan out a whole day with a series of routes in a fraction of the time. I of course check those auto-routing to make sure they are good. There are so many features in Navionics. Comparing HomePort to Navionics is like comparing my boat to yours. Your boat is a lot nicer than mine
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Daveddd, Sounds interesting. When you say Navionics is "live" I assume you mean it requires an internet connection? via Cellular or wifi? Active Captain provides marina and port/anchorage data, reviews, local knowledge, phone numbers, etc. It is a web site, so requires connectivity. But it's on a tablet or laptop, not on the MFD.

Is this "Navionics" an app, software on a tablet or on the chartplotter? What are you using for connectivity? How can I find out more about it?
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Live is not the best word for me to use. The maps, once downloaded do not require internet, but like other apps, if you have an internet connection, you can get weather into, tides, currents, etc. Garmin just bought Navionics a couple of weeks ago, so I am hoping they will integrate into the garmin chartplotters. The website is navionics.com.
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Live is not the best word for me to use. The maps, once downloaded do not require internet, but like other apps, if you have an internet connection, you can get weather into, tides, currents, etc. Garmin just bought Navionics a couple of weeks ago, so I am hoping they will integrate into the garmin chartplotters. The website is navionics.com.
So you are just saying that the Navionics charts contain supplemental data regarding ports, restaurants, marinas, etc that the Garmin charts don't contain. Got it.
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Other than direct serial connection, not that I've used (at least on my 4210s). What's wrong with SD cards?
It's a combo issue - I use a MacBook and can't write to the cards with the MacOS. I have windows parallels but it's a work computer and requires that SD cards be encrypted - which renders them useless for the transfer.
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Navionics is a "live app". You can be out boating, and for example, during your route, you can look at restaurants along the route and find out more info, and call them, etc. You can look up any navigation aid on the map, and pull up additional info on it. You can input your boat settings like draft and a low depth alert, and the app will shade the water areas according to those settings. The dock to dock auto-routing is superb as far as I have seen, so you can plan out a whole day with a series of routes in a fraction of the time. I of course check those auto-routing to make sure they are good. There are so many features in Navionics. Comparing HomePort to Navionics is like comparing my boat to yours. Your boat is a lot nicer than mine

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I use it all the time. While i do double check it, autorouting has been spot on so far and makes it very easy to plot a safe course on the fly, especially into areas i'm unsure of. I'd hate to have to try to manually plot a multi-waypoint course on a rough day on my iPhone (and it's even harder on my older chartplotter). And as stated above, lots of additional information is provided as well (local weather, wind, tides, currents, points of interest, etc.).
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It's a combo issue - I use a MacBook and can't write to the cards with the MacOS. I have windows parallels but it's a work computer and requires that SD cards be encrypted - which renders them useless for the transfer.
To be clear, you're saying your employer has placed restrictions on your Mac, not Apple, right?

I've been using Homeport exclusively on my Mac - reading and writing to SD cards for my plotter and my neighbors and friends for years now.

I had a Windows installation in a BootCamp partition, but I deleted it once Garmin released the Mac version of Homeport.
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I use it all the time. While i do double check it, autorouting has been spot on so far and makes it very easy to plot a safe course on the fly, especially into areas i'm unsure of. I'd hate to have to try to manually plot a multi-waypoint course on a rough day on my iPhone (and it's even harder on my older chartplotter). And as stated above, lots of additional information is provided as well (local weather, wind, tides, currents, points of interest, etc.).
So how does a charting app show you local weather and wind? Without internet real time connectivity?
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I use it all the time. While i do double check it, autorouting has been spot on so far and makes it very easy to plot a safe course on the fly, especially into areas i'm unsure of. I'd hate to have to try to manually plot a multi-waypoint course on a rough day on my iPhone (and it's even harder on my older chartplotter). And as stated above, lots of additional information is provided as well (local weather, wind, tides, currents, points of interest, etc.).
so you're trusting auto created routes into areas you're unsure of, on the fly, on rough days, and 'checking' them on your phone. sounds like a great plan!

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