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chrisrack 11-21-2017 10:40 AM

Charles or ProMariner Battery Charger
 
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I have both of these dry-mount battery chargers ..... a 10-amp Charles and a 20 amp ProMariner ProNautic.

Which one is most reliable? Better charger? Which one would you keep? Use: 23ft CC kept on a trailer. Battery charger is only used to maintain the 2 batteries (1 starting, 1 house)

Both batteries are Interstate 24-series wet-cell (traditional lead).

Amity83 11-21-2017 11:01 AM

They are both pretty good chargers. Be sure to keep them dry. You typically see waterproof chargers in a boat like yours. Charles made great chargers but decided to pull out of most of their marine products last year. The Pronautic has more power output so I'd lean that way, but with 2 Group 24 batteries it wont make much of a difference. On some boats, the Charles 2000 series were know to introduce noise into the electrical system. The 5000 series had hardware to prevent this.

ocnslr 11-21-2017 12:53 PM

Boat came from factory with a 3-bank, 20-amp Charles charger. It was in almost constant use for 14 years, with boat in a slip. Died last year. Replaced it with a newer model of the same charger.

mvpsteve 11-21-2017 02:59 PM

Batt Charger
 
Check out NOCO Genius wicked smart chargers.

CME 11-21-2017 05:00 PM

Charles was a fantastic "hearty" charger. If it were me, I would switch to a Newmar over the Promariner.--- if that was the only choice. I no longer will EVER sell Promariner chargers.

https://dcpoweronboard.com/phase-thr...tery-chargers/


BUT, If you want another fantastic option for the more technically inclined people with high end systems....

https://www.bluesea.com/products/cat...ery%20Chargers

chrisrack 11-21-2017 05:25 PM

Thanks CME - so ...... since I already own a Promariner and a Charles (and not interterested in buying a third brand), I assume that you recommend that I keep the Charles?

Why is it that you don't like Promariner?

CME 11-21-2017 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by chrisrack (Post 10863206)
Thanks CME - so ...... since I already own a Promariner and a Charles (and not interterested in buying a third brand), I assume that you recommend that I keep the Charles?

Why is it that you don't like Promariner?

-Far too many failures
-their add-on indicator panels went out almost yearly
-chattering upon startup from an off position

I forgot to add. I believe people forget that they have their charger plugged in and charging and when they start their OB or IM they pop the Promariner charger. Now, is that their fault or yours? I guess the other brands I mentioned have a protection factor for that. I guess If you NEVER FORGET to un-plug it before you start your motors, ....... good luck with that.

I know of no real dealer installing them anymore. Most of us have moved on. Norco, Powermania, etc.

smac999 11-21-2017 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by CME (Post 10863231)

I know of no real dealer installing them anymore. Most of us have moved on. Norco, Powermania, etc.

it's the only charger only I use (on dry cabin boats). used to used the xantrax true charge 2's but stopped a few years ago because they were all dying within a year. haven't had a single issue with the ProNautics. put lots in.

I never use remote panels though. that's just silly. turn it off with the ac breaker.

I don't see why starting an engine would have any issue on the charger.

jeff7y28 11-22-2017 08:45 AM

A buddy bought a brand new Pathfinder 2400 last year with a 4 bank Promariner. It lasted a little over a year before it went kaput! I have a Powermania 3 bank charger, and love it!

jfwireless 11-22-2017 11:33 AM

I have a ProMariner on my Edgewater 268, came with the vessel new, has been working just fine for the last 2 years, and never had an issue with starting the engines and killing the charger still connected to shore power. It is a ProSport 20 model.

I also put a ProMariner in my Pathfinder, no issues. I like the ability of the ProSport 20 amp 2 bank charger to distribute the full 20 amps to whatever battery needs it, not limited to 10 amps per battery.

I do not run a remote panel of any kind. The ProMariner remote bank status monitor panel connects directly to the batteries, so do not understand how this can affect the chargers on shore power ? Maybe you are talking about some other panel I am not aware of.

Jim

Ethan 11-22-2017 04:33 PM

Had four Charles 5000 series chargers that failed. Charles makes good stuff with great service but I'm a little harsh with my electrical loads having more electronics than a Third World Nation.

I now beat the crap out of my ProMariner with Remote. Hasn't blinked yet in 3 years.............we shall see.

BCTony 11-22-2017 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by CME (Post 10863231)
-Far too many failures
-their add-on indicator panels went out almost yearly
-chattering upon startup from an off position

I forgot to add. I believe people forget that they have their charger plugged in and charging and when they start their OB or IM they pop the Promariner charger. Now, is that their fault or yours? I guess the other brands I mentioned have a protection factor for that. I guess If you NEVER FORGET to un-plug it before you start your motors, ....... good luck with that.

I know of no real dealer installing them anymore. Most of us have moved on. Norco, Powermania, etc.

I have a ProMariner 1230P and have had my outboards running umpteen times with the charger still plugged in and 'on'. I have not noticed anything amiss and as far as I am aware the charger is operating correctly. I did in fact query with the dealer/installer and was told this was OK because the charger had a sensor to detect current feed from an alternator.

Have I been miss-advised ;?

hoejef 11-23-2017 01:55 AM

My promariner took a poop after 3yrs, for the price I gave the Noco a try 6
months and all is good

Marco_boater 11-23-2017 03:50 AM

I had a Promariner in my bus and it died after 10 years. The replacement Promariner is still going strong. It's hard wired in. It's never removed when the diesel starts.


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