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Old 09-08-2017, 07:03 PM
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Hello All,
As some may know, i have a 23 Albury Brothers with a single Mercury Verado 300.
I am looking at installing an autopilot in it, and it will most likely be Garmin, because everything else is, and I like consistency with electronics. But i have heard some negative reviews about the compact reactor pilot, and that i should get a larger pump, but I am curious for somebody to recommend all the parts that I would need to make this install.

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Old 09-08-2017, 07:13 PM
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I had a Raymarine EV 100 on a smaller boat with twin 90's it worked great and the small pump was not an issue. Now I have Garmin GHP 20 ($4,000) Autopilot on my new boat with twin 150's and I think its overkill.

I use both of them in a similar way to just to hold a heading. If the pump is in the specs for your hydraulic steering cylinder I don't think you will have a problem, the software is the same.

Stay away from the shadow drive it sounds really cool but it does not really work, I turned mine off.
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Originally Posted by KonaCat View Post
I had a Raymarine EV 100 on a smaller boat with twin 90's it worked great and the small pump was not an issue. Now I have Garmin GHP 20 ($4,000) Autopilot on my new boat with twin 150's and I think its overkill.

I use both of them in a similar way to just to hold a heading. If the pump is in the specs for your hydraulic steering cylinder I don't think you will have a problem, the software is the same.

Stay away from the shadow drive it sounds really cool but it does not really work, I turned mine off.
Okay, I think that the ghp 20 is also overkill for my boat. a single engine running off a mercury steering ram (not sure of specs) but all i want it for is a heading hold and some routing at cruising speed. I really could not imagine having to spend 4k for an autopilot for my boat when my friends with simrads and raymarines are spending 2-2.5k,

But then again, this is why I am asking for help.....
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Originally Posted by CaptCash242 View Post
Okay, I think that the ghp 20 is also overkill for my boat. a single engine running off a mercury steering ram (not sure of specs) but all i want it for is a heading hold and some routing at cruising speed. I really could not imagine having to spend 4k for an autopilot for my boat when my friends with simrads and raymarines are spending 2-2.5k,

But then again, this is why I am asking for help.....
Garmin is expensive in the AP section. Yes you will spend close to or more than $4000 total for it. The simrad is close to half of what Garmin wants.

This is the one size fits all that they offer.
https://www.thegpsstore.com/Garmin-GHP-Reactor-Hydraulic-Autopilot-with-SmartPump-P4355.aspx

I'm not sure you can utilize this one but having a single engine you may just get lucky and get this one to work.
https://www.thegpsstore.com/Garmin-Compact-Reactor-Hydraulic-Marine-Autopilot-P4777.aspx
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Originally Posted by wamc0206 View Post
Garmin is expensive in the AP section. Yes you will spend close to or more than $4000 total for it. The simrad is close to half of what Garmin wants.

This is the one size fits all that they offer.
https://www.thegpsstore.com/Garmin-G...ump-P4355.aspx

I'm not sure you can utilize this one but having a single engine you may just get lucky and get this one to work.
https://www.thegpsstore.com/Garmin-C...lot-P4777.aspx


This is simply not true.
The Garmin with the 1.2 liter pump is under 3K, The Simrad with the RPU80 pump is cheaper but not by half. Approx. $430 less
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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineBrian View Post
This is simply not true.
The Garmin with the 1.2 liter pump is under 3K, The Simrad with the RPU80 pump is cheaper but not by half. Approx. $430 less
You have quoted several times in the past that Garmin is a more expensive ap product than simrad and some others. I posted 2 options for the man that Garmin offers. One being a $4k plus and the other being much more reasonable. I don't know if option 2 would work for him but instead you should and you have to reply to me and not even answer the op.

The complete reactor series with smart pump is $4k
If you do the reactor without the smart pump and add a 1.2L looks like you are around $3k, pump is $899 itself and $2099 for ap package.

And my half quote is based on getting the smart pump kit!
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Originally Posted by CaptCash242 View Post
Okay, I think that the ghp 20 is also overkill for my boat. a single engine running off a mercury steering ram (not sure of specs) but all i want it for is a heading hold and some routing at cruising speed. I really could not imagine having to spend 4k for an autopilot for my boat when my friends with simrads and raymarines are spending 2-2.5k,

But then again, this is why I am asking for help.....
Sorry if this falls in the category of thread drift, but if your looking for bang for your buck Raymarine Autopilots absolutely kick ass. I installed an EV-200 on my boat 3 years and about 600 hours ago. I don't think I have steered the boat with the actual wheel for an hour total since it went in. Most of the operating time the autopilot is running on a route or dct to a fix, the remainder steering the boat with the amazing little knob on the auto pilot control head. Slow, fast, rough, calm, trolling , makes no difference, push button, boat runs like it's on rails regardless of conditions.

Absolutely best piece of electronic gear I have ever owned. If it failed I would buy a new one the next day.

When I installed my unit it was either the EV-100 or the EV-200. I have a Parker 2520 with s/e 225 and at that time there was much discussion if the EV-100 was "enough". I opted for the EV-200 that I knew for sure would be adequate and have absolutely ZERO regret with my purchase. Subsequently, Raymarine has come out with the EV-150 which is designed perfectly for a boat my size and is less $$$ then the EV-200. I would imagine the new EV-150 would work as well on a boat like mine (and yours) as the EV-200 and when comparing prices, seems quite affordable. I don't know if an off brand plotter would interphase as seamlessly with a Raymarine Pilot as it does with a Raymarine Chart Plotter but if NMEA 2000 networked they should be able to talk to each other. As long as you can get it to track to a fix or run a route, what else do you need?

Again sorry for the thread drift and for what it's worth I do not work in the marine industry and have absolutely zero affiliation with Raymarine other then being a customer.....
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Originally Posted by wamc0206 View Post
You have quoted several times in the past that Garmin is a more expensive ap product than simrad and some others. I posted 2 options for the man that Garmin offers. One being a $4k plus and the other being much more reasonable. I don't know if option 2 would work for him but instead you should and you have to reply to me and not even answer the op.

The complete reactor series with smart pump is $4k
If you do the reactor without the smart pump and add a 1.2L looks like you are around $3k, pump is $899 itself and $2099 for ap package.

And my half quote is based on getting the smart pump kit!
Yes it is a bit more, a fair comparison is not with the Smart pump but rather the 1.2 liter pump.

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