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Old 09-05-2017, 10:46 AM
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Hey guys - looking for a little help. My Simrad AP11 recently crapped out, and I am looking at putting in a new autopilot this Fall. The boat is a 26 Regulator, and I am currently deciding between the AP44 & the Furuno NAVPILOT 711.

The rest of my electronics are Furuno (NN3d) - so I am thinking about going the Furuno route. I know that I can tie in the AP44 to the NN3d as well, but I am not sure if I will be missing anything that the 711 can do over the AP44.

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Old 09-05-2017, 10:55 AM
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For the best in interconnectivity with your MFD you should go with the Furuno. For the best in performance go with the Simrad.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:15 AM
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I havent used a newer Simrad to compare but a buddy has the 711c on his boat mated with a TZT and it is great. It was simple to use, held course even in choppy water on windy day while trolling for striped bass at 3 knots with single outboard powered cabin boat.

I am dying to check out the sabiki mode that is said to hold the boat in position (with you working the throttle) in reverse around structure. This would be awesome for me fishing structure with live bait if it works well. I am always running the boat around structure like markers, the bay bridge, etc. keeping the boat in reverse into the current to hold position while drifting live spot.

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Old 09-05-2017, 11:20 AM
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Both units can operate without rudder feedback so installation is the same. Performance of the 2 is similar. Furuno has a feature called Safe Helm which is nice but you need their power assist pump to make it work. They also have their new Sabiki mode. Simrad is able to follow a bottom contour which is a nice feature. Both are quality units. I would suggest studying up on these subtle features to see if any interest you, then go that route.
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Old 09-05-2017, 01:12 PM
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I've been really happy with the performance of my AP11 - tracks straight even in the slop, and works well trolling. I only assume that with the newer technology, things can only be better. Coming from Simrad, do you think I would be disappointed with the Furuno? I really like the inter-connectivity of the Furuno with my NN3d (I know simrad can connect too)
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Old 09-05-2017, 04:30 PM
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I just installed a furuno 711c and so far it has been very good. I was a bit disappointed that you can not use there "fish hunter" mode without installing a rudder feedback sensor. The phantom feedback that it comes with won't cut it. Everything else works but "fish hunter". Other then that it's been great.

Also Brian from international marine was a big help on install when I had questions! Big thanks
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Originally Posted by coastalfiberglass View Post
I just installed a furuno 711c and so far it has been very good. I was a bit disappointed that you can not use there "fish hunter" mode without installing a rudder feedback sensor. The phantom feedback that it comes with won't cut it. Everything else works but "fish hunter". Other then that it's been great.

Also Brian from international marine was a big help on install when I had questions! Big thanks
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Originally Posted by Sittin' Low View Post
I've been really happy with the performance of my AP11 - tracks straight even in the slop, and works well trolling. I only assume that with the newer technology, things can only be better. Coming from Simrad, do you think I would be disappointed with the Furuno? I really like the inter-connectivity of the Furuno with my NN3d (I know simrad can connect too)
I don't think you will be disappointed at all. Quite the opposite. I switched from Simrad to Furuno about 3 years ago and couldn't be happier. The Furuno steers as well or better than the Simrad, and has more tuning flexibility. And teh interfacing options are much greater with the Furuno.
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Simrad is known to be the best in the industry
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by twistedtree View Post
I don't think you will be disappointed at all. Quite the opposite. I switched from Simrad to Furuno about 3 years ago and couldn't be happier. The Furuno steers as well or better than the Simrad, and has more tuning flexibility. And teh interfacing options are much greater with the Furuno.
Your reference is the previous generation Simrad pilot (which I find excellent), not AP44
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Originally Posted by tommy099431 View Post
Simrad is known to be the best in the industry
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Old 09-06-2017, 06:29 PM
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I have a used simrad AP11 with everything but the pump for sale cheap

http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-...uto-pilot.html
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:17 AM
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Leaning towards the AP44 as I can get a much better price on it. Anything major I will be missing out on vs the Furuno?
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I've had a number of Robertson (Simrad) units on other boats and currently have the 711C using fantom feedback on my 27 foot NorthCoast pilot house with twin 250 Etec G2's. I also have a TZT 12" MFD. The 711 works great and I never have to do anything with it as the sea state changes. It's self learning capability must be working great. I have had to adjust the sea state level on my Robertson units although I don't know how the current Simrad units work. I find the Sabiki mode to be quite helpful, it can even steer the boat in reverse with just one engine in gear and that's a big help if I want to go very slow against a slow moving current. If I'm solo fishing and hang up on the bottom it's very helpful to engage Sabiki mode and have the boat back up over where the line is stuck to the bottom and get up current from it. Usually the line comes free and I don't have to turn the boat around and strip a lot of line off the reel in the process. There's nothing you could do to get me to switch back to the Simrad AP.

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I would personally go Furuno, PG-700 is a much better compass than the RC42 IMO
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Originally Posted by coastalfiberglass View Post
I just installed a furuno 711c and so far it has been very good. I was a bit disappointed that you can not use there "fish hunter" mode without installing a rudder feedback sensor. The phantom feedback that it comes with won't cut it. Everything else works but "fish hunter". Other then that it's been great.

Also Brian from international marine was a big help on install when I had questions! Big thanks
coastalfiberglass, you said the phantom feedback won't cut it. How so?
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Old 09-08-2017, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mstyle8517 View Post
I would personally go Furuno, PG-700 is a much better compass than the RC42 IMO
You are correct, but new Simrad pilots ship with the improved precision 9 compass.

Really both pilots work very well. I really like Furuno's safehelm feature though it costs a bunch more. I would think better integration would be the deciding factor. Does OP plan on keeping the navnet3d or upgrading anytime soon?
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Originally Posted by cp10415 View Post
coastalfiberglass, you said the phantom feedback won't cut it. How so?
The only downfall I have found with the phantom feedback is you can not use "fish hunter mode" which has all the figure 8 turns and such. To make the system allow the use of fish hunter mode you will need to install a rudder feedback sensor ($425). Other then that it's great
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Originally Posted by coastalfiberglass View Post
The only downfall I have found with the phantom feedback is you can not use "fish hunter mode" which has all the figure 8 turns and such. To make the system allow the use of fish hunter mode you will need to install a rudder feedback sensor ($425). Other then that it's great
So the fish hunter mode doesn't work at all without the rudder feedback sensor? There is no mention of this requirement in the AP711C specs.
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That is correct.
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