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Old 11-17-2016, 02:24 PM
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Thinking of replacing a pr of mx650's with 770's plus another pr of 770's for the bow area . The amp im inclined to is wet sounds syn-dx4. No sub for now. Opinions please. Thx
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Thinking of replacing a pr of mx650's with 770's plus another pr of 770's for the bow area . The amp im inclined to is wet sounds syn-dx4. No sub for now. Opinions please. Thx
I have a different route that will wake the whole set up. Go with WS808's and an sd4. The 808's are brighter then the jl's and sound better under way. Also same mid-bass as the 7.7's, arguably a little better.
The sd4 is a beast and the 808's love power. SQ is the best out there and nothing puts out that kind of power. You could add a sub later if you so choose.
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Thanks. But i believe the sd4 is more $$ than i care to spend.. i dont know that much on tonal quality on marine speakers but i dont like bright speakers generally. Thanks though
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Well, in a marine environment the brighter speaker wins. We are not talking shrill. They utilize a titanium tweeter which has a broader range. Once underway they really shine. The silk dome speaker becomes very muted imo whereas the titanium tweet carries far better. Just a better quality in the open environment of a boat. I see that you recognize the quality of WS amps I would give their speakers a chance. I have not had a disappointed install when tuned right.
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One speaker uses a hard metal dome tweeter while the other uses a soft textile dome tweeter. The difference in sound is not a matter of audible range but a matter of how each manufacturer chooses to 'voice' their speaker (splice together the midbass and tweeter). There are advantages and disadvantages to both and preference is subjective. If you have the opportunity, listen to both on equal terms.
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I have 4 JL MX7.7 and a JL 400/4 amp on my 23' CC. Very happy. Everyone has such a massive hard-on for Wet Sounds on this forum that they dismiss all other brands as junk. There are other good speakers too. I haven't heard the Wet Sounds, but until very recently they has ugly as sin grills so I didn't go out of my way to find them.
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Thanks.I think I'm going m770's 2 pair .1 replacing mx650's the other for upfront.Amp is where my dilemma is.I may add a sub down the line so have to stay open for that aswell.another would be m770's next to helm under gunnel where the mx650's are and m880's for the front but not sure I can manage that due to the depth.FWIW the front speakers would be above the access hatch on either side aft of the forward seating.
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Originally Posted by enrique1 View Post
Thinking of replacing a pr of mx650's with 770's plus another pr of 770's for the bow area . The amp im inclined to is wet sounds syn-dx4. No sub for now. Opinions please. Thx
For now, the Wetsounds SynDX4 is a very good choice for four total M770s. However, if adding a subwoofer is a probable eventuality then I would wait to resolve exactly which subwoofer and where before making my amplifier choice (even if the sub installation is some time away). A particular subwoofer could dictate that a Wetsounds SynDX6 or a JL Audio MHD900/5 is a better choice.
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Thanks.I'm not deadset on the syn-dx4 still open to jlaudio amp? as long as I can add a sub later if I'm inclined.
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I am running 2, jl, 770's and 2, jl, 8's on a jl m/600 amp. sound is awesome. I highly suggest going with JL whenever possible. I am trying to squeeze in a 10" sub all on the same amp but I think I may need to add a small amp to run the 10? Anyway, I can run the amp all day in the sun, I have no t-top, with no issues every at all. Uses very little battery power. I have two batteries also. love the set up. would like the 10 just for a tad more punch.
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Originally Posted by enrique1 View Post
Thanks.I'm not deadset on the syn-dx4 still open to jlaudio amp? as long as I can add a sub later if I'm inclined.
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I am running 2, jl, 770's and 2, jl, 8's on a jl m/600 amp. sound is awesome. I highly suggest going with JL whenever possible. I am trying to squeeze in a 10" sub all on the same amp but I think I may need to add a small amp to run the 10? Anyway, I can run the amp all day in the sun, I have no t-top, with no issues every at all. Uses very little battery power. I have two batteries also. love the set up. would like the 10 just for a tad more punch.
Like your setup is that the m600/6 ? looking into that amp aswell as the 700/5. If you can put 8's on your boat maybe I can in mine not sure.Also like the uses very little battery.Thats a plus
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Originally Posted by enrique1 View Post
Like your setup is that the m600/6 ? looking into that amp aswell as the 700/5. If you can put 8's on your boat maybe I can in mine not sure.Also like the uses very little battery.Thats a plus
to be honest brother i just see the m600. It's a little older like circa 2013/14. I know by just looking at it it does not have a separate subwoofer channel, that I can see.. I think, not sure, that the new m600's do have the dedicated sub channel. so if you wanted to add a sub later on that would be a possibility. If you message me your number i can text you a short vid of the set up.
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Originally Posted by enrique1 View Post
Like your setup is that the m600/6 ? looking into that amp aswell as the 700/5. If you can put 8's on your boat maybe I can in mine not sure.Also like the uses very little battery.Thats a plus
If adding a sub later, I would go with the 700/5 versus the 600/6. While the satellite channels are the same, and with a single 4-ohm sub the lowpass power would essentially be the same, you do get a larger power supply in the 700/5, and that matters in a single- chassis multi-channel amplifier.
The JL Audio amplifiers are very conservative in their ratings, and will generally deliver their 14.4V power even with a 12.6V supply, including the unregulated XD & M series.

I'm not so brand-biased like others. I look at each scenario from an application standpoint. In this particular case, prior to adding a subwoofer, I still favor the SynDX4.
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But if i opt with the syn i would need another amp if i add a sub. Correct? Trying not to have to do that. M700/5 may be best. Dont know yet
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But if i opt with the syn i would need another amp if i add a sub. Correct? Trying not to have to do that. M700/5 may be best. Dont know yet
Then the syndx6 would be the next step up. That will give you the sub channel for future use.
Or you could do the syndx4 still and just run them 2ohm and bridge 3&4 to run a sub later on. Essentially same power as the the 700/5.
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Step up from jl m700/5 ?
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Step up from jl m700/5 ?
Yes more power and adds two channels to bridge a sub.
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Well thats a plus
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Once you bridge channels 5 & 6 to drive a sub, the Wetsounds SynDX6 becomes a 5-channel amplifier just like the JL Audio M700/5. In both cases the 5th channel goes unused until you add a subwoofer.
One issue not explained by the power specs alone is the cause and effect of running more speakers on fewer channels or the inverse. Dynamic Headroom is the difference. Running at low impedances (in other words, more speakers and less channels) may produce a premium in power, but in a sense you are already running very near redline so to speak. And this does matter when you have a multi-channel amplifier in a single chassis with a single power supply. That's why if you are running a subwoofer, a JL Audio M700/5 is an excellent choice, or the Wetsounds SynDX6 which offers even more power.

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