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Old 11-09-2016, 08:48 AM
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Bought a new boat and im in the market for a combo unit. On my little freshwater boat i have a humminbird 798ci unit. I really like it, especially its ease of use....side imaging, down imaging, dual frequency. Ive done some searching here on THT but couldnt find much info at all on humminbird. Seems there is no love for their units in the saltwater community.

Anyone care to chime in on why?
Old 11-09-2016, 09:29 AM
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I run an 898 HDSI and have loved it. It doesnt have the integration features that a lot of people here look for (Radar, XM Weather .....) but it is a solid unit. I've used mine out to 500' with no problems at all.
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I have a 989 on my flats boat alongside a Lowrance HDS8 gen2. The Lowrance seems more intuitive to use, and provides more information. The Humminbird has some proprietary connections and is not friendly with NMEA2000 or ethernet without adapters.
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Humminbird doesn't offer the connection options(i.e. NMEA2000) and other features at the lower price points that most of the other manufacturers do. So they get left out of the discussion ALOT. They ARE outstanding stand-alone units, though, if you don't care about extra features, connectivity, or bells/whistles add-ons.
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Ah, ha! Makes sense. Guess i need to look elsewhere as eventually will be adding radar andlike theidea of integration
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1199HD SI KVD on my offshore boat.
If I had to do it again I'd get a loweance like the flats boat.

You can't customize the screen as much so I almost never use the SI. Great on a lake, not so good offshore in deep water.
Old 11-09-2016, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTea View Post
Humminbird doesn't offer the connection options(i.e. NMEA2000) and other features at the lower price points that most of the other manufacturers do. So they get left out of the discussion ALOT. They ARE outstanding stand-alone units, though, if you don't care about extra features, connectivity, or bells/whistles add-ons.
You nailed it!
BTW, I had a 798 on my bass boat and loved it! ( was my first SI di unit), sold boat last yr and gave HB to a friend for his Charter boat ( rear station) .. Fishing the Chesapeake bay. On several trips, I was a ride along, using the 798 I used the SI to put us on many rockfish.
The rear station is exposed to alot of water when running and its kinda rough out. I had always heard HB's can't handle wet locations.. This thing gets water pouring on it and keeps on going . Been pretty impressed with it!
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I have a 917C works great. But all I use it for is the chartplotter and occasionally to see the bottom. Don't use it for fishing.
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Originally Posted by JayTea View Post
Humminbird doesn't offer the connection options(i.e. NMEA2000) and other features at the lower price points that most of the other manufacturers do. So they get left out of the discussion ALOT. They ARE outstanding stand-alone units, though, if you don't care about extra features, connectivity, or bells/whistles add-ons.
they do...you simply have to move up to the onix or ion units

i still have an 1198 next to my 7612

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Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
they do...you simply have to move up to the onix or ion units

i still have an 1198 next to my 7612
So I can get an Onix unit at the $500.00 price point of a Go5 or echoMap CHIRP 53dv?

I didn't say Humminbird units don't offer these features at all, just not at the lower price points other manufacturers do. There better be a ton of features and connectivity on a $1,500 - $3,000 unit........
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I have always thought of HB as freshwater units.

Won't even consider them for my ocean boats as there are so many other "commercial" brands to use.
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I frequently run a 24 Skeeter with an onyx 10. It's the most painful menu to fumble through. The sonar doesn't work. The HD sonar doesn't work. The 360° Sonar doesn't work. The side scan works, kinda. With the Minn Kota deployed and running the screen goes blank. It's horrible.
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humminbird is done with the saltwater market, so you don't have to worry about it much longer

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So I can get an Onix unit at the $500.00 price point of a Go5 or echoMap CHIRP 53dv?

I didn't say Humminbird units don't offer these features at all, just not at the lower price points other manufacturers do. There better be a ton of features and connectivity on a $1,500 - $3,000 unit........
the garmin 53dv doesn't even have nmea 2000. most times with any manufacturer you have to move up in the line for full network capability. the lowrance hds, the garmin 7600 or the humminbird onix if you want to compaire apples to apples

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I frequently run a 24 Skeeter with an onyx 10. It's the most painful menu to fumble through. The sonar doesn't work. The HD sonar doesn't work. The 360° Sonar doesn't work. The side scan works, kinda. With the Minn Kota deployed and running the screen goes blank. It's horrible.
all of those sound like install issues. you need to be wired directly to the battery with 10 guage wire for the onyx to work properly

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Maps of theirs are shit...
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lakemaster has very accurate mapping. much better than navionics. they simply don'y cover as many bodies of water

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TroyBoy,


I know they are good quality map cards. I'm speaking of HB's GPS in general. It looks really "cheap" thrown together
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Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
the garmin 53dv doesn't even have nmea 2000. most times with any manufacturer you have to move up in the line for full network capability. the lowrance hds, the garmin 7600 or the humminbird onix if you want to compaire apples to apples
I did not say the Garmin 53dv. I stated the Garmin echoMap CHIRP 53dv. Which DOES have NMEA2000 capabilities. At the $450.00 price point. https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/prod529871.html

Or, to be most current, the newer model echoMap CHIRP 53cv https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-t...rod576398.html
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Originally Posted by Manoverboard123 View Post
Maps of theirs are shit...
The maps on my 798 were AWESOME! While sitting 100Miles away, I had a guy show me what corner of a boat dock to fish, because he had caught several fish there that day. ( Yes--it showed the boat docks) at a lake.
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Originally Posted by JayTea View Post
I did not say the Garmin 53dv. I stated the Garmin echoMap CHIRP 53dv. Which DOES have NMEA2000 capabilities. At the $450.00 price point. https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/prod529871.html

Or, to be most current, the newer model echoMap CHIRP 53cv https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-t...rod576398.html
they say nmea 2000 compatibility but they only list nmea 0813 ports

Connections
Transducer pin numbers 4
NMEA 0183 input ports
1

NMEA 0183 output ports
1

Video input ports None
Video output ports None
Wireless connectivity
No
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Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
those only have nmea 0813 ports though

Connections
Transducer pin numbers 4
NMEA 0183 input ports
1

NMEA 0183 output ports
1

Video input ports None
Video output ports None
Wireless connectivity
No
C'mon dude.....first you quote the wrong model and say I'm wrong, then you quote the only section of the specs that say nothing about NMEA2000? This forum deserves better and you know it.

"In the box" Tab:
  • echoMAP CHIRP 53dv with U.S. LakeVü™ HD
  • Power/data cable
  • Tilt/swivel mount
  • Flush mount
  • Protective cover
  • GT22HW-TM transducer (4-pin)
  • Transom mount
  • Trolling motor mount
  • NMEA 2000 adapter cable (4-pin Female to 5-pin Male)
  • Hardware
  • Documentation
Product Description:


It’s time you started fishing with the power of CHIRP sonar. The easy-to-install, easy-to-use 5-inch echoMAP CHIRP 53dv includes transducer for high wide CHIRP sonar and Garmin CHIRP ClearVü, the clearest scanning sonar on the water. It includes Quickdraw Contours software to instantly create your very own HD maps with 1-foot contours as you fish. Internal 5 Hz GPS updates position and heading 5 times per second. It provides NMEA 2000® support for engine data, sensors, FUSION-LINK™ audio system, autopilots and more. Cords plug directly into the mount, allowing you to quickly install and remove your device from power and mount. Transom and trolling motor mounts included.


https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/prod...ml?zebratwo=CJ

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